rapture reference in John 5?

[BigBunny]

i've been reading (very slowly :doh ) the gospel of John, and when i read John 5:28-30 i was like :twitch

28 "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned. 30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

my Bible is an NIV, so that's why i used the above version :)

what do other RR people think?

[Wandering Traveller]

I think it's ambiguous because it just speaks of the resurrection of the dead, not the circumstances in which that takes place or what happens to people still alive. However, it certainly seems compatible with the doctrine of the rapture.

[LaMontre]

i've been reading (very slowly :doh ) the gospel of John, and when i read John 5:28-30 i was like :twitch

28 "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned. 30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

my Bible is an NIV, so that's why i used the above version :)

what do other RR people think?

Sounds like the rapture to me.... :)

[BigBunny]

Sounds like the rapture to me.... :)
that's what i thought :) i've only known of the Rapture since checking out Rapture Ready & this board...and since i started reading John again it stuck out at me :twitch

[LaMontre]

that's what i thought :) i've only known of the Rapture since checking out Rapture Ready & this board...and since i started reading John again it stuck out at me :twitch

Yes he is quoting this scripture;
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

[Neen273]

Sounds like the rapture to me.... :)

Except that those who have done evil will not rise to be condemned at the rapture.

[Buzzardhut]

i've been reading (very slowly :doh ) the gospel of John, and when i read John 5:28-30 i was like :twitch

28 "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned. 30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

my Bible is an NIV, so that's why i used the above version :)

what do other RR people think?
The promise of the Resurrection

[LaMontre]

Except that those who have done evil will not rise to be condemned at the rapture.

No? :thinking

But there is no timeline referred to, only the fact of.....certainly, those who "rise to live" is at the rapture?

[BigBunny]

Except that those who have done evil will not rise to be condemned at the rapture.
because for the wicked dead they are brought back at the Great White Throne of Judgement for the 2nd death, which is the Lake of Fire...have i got that right? :scratch

[Sydney Spider]

because for the wicked dead they are brought back at the Great White Throne of Judgement for the 2nd death, which is the Lake of Fire...have i got that right? :scratch

Yip! :thumb That happens after the Millenium.