Big Bubba - The Holidays Threads Merged

[EarsToHear]

It seems things have gotten a bit more complicated than what was asked in the OP, "So, do you celebrate Christmas or not?"

:whisper For the record, up thread when I mentioned that I threw out my crystal ball and Merlin statue, it wasn't because I worshiped them. I never looked into the crystal to see the future, and I never idolized Merlin. Neither did I ever bow down to my Christmas trees, except maybe to pick up fallen ornament--no pun intended. :lol2

The simple answer to the OP is that all true Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus in our hearts, and we also celebrate it in various ways in accordance with our conscience. We celebrate because if He didn't come into the world as Savior, we would still have to pay the eternal wages for our sins.

Praise the Lord. :yeah

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[james46888]

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[ComeLordJesus]

BTW, I'm one of the few who voted option #2 in the poll list. Years ago I threw out my old rock 'n roll albums from the '60s, other CDs, burned some pagan and apostate books in my possession and gave others to the church for their reference library, dumped my large crystal ball, also my beautifully-made statue of Merlin, along with Christmas wrapping paper showing Santa, baby angels, other pagan ornaments, etc. The more that got tossed, the more I found. The Christmas trimmings garbage bag was the biggest in the heap.I just did that this weekend as well! I read some literature online that convicted me of the music and books. That's actually why I was asking about the Christmas trees and the celebration on December 25. No more Temptations (!), Eric Clapton, so-called Christian rock, or pagan novels like James Rollins' (promotes esotericism, evolution, etc.) for me either! I started throwing stuff away, then got to wondering about even more stuff. :doh It does indeed seem to never end.:sad


Thanks also for the origins of the tree and Santa traditions.

[ComeLordJesus]

When it comes down to it, it's about being convicted by the Holy Spirit about what and how you celebrate...same for those that have nothing to do with Halloween and those that hand out tracts at Holloween, same with Easter, etc...

I you feel convicted not to celebrate Christmas or Easter , etc, in any way shape or form then that is your personal conviction, for others, they may see nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas for the birth of our Lord and Savior. Even though Christ wasn't born on the 25th (and we don't know exactly what day He was born), the point is we are celebrating His Birth, the Birth of the One who would save us from an eternity separated from God. The Lord knows what's in the hearts of those that celebrate Christmas for His Birth.




Unless you are worshipping the tree you put up, which I am betting you don't, but instead are really liking the pretty decorations that give you pleasure to look at and hold gifts that remind you of the biblical account of the wisemen (who knows how many there were) bringing gifts to honor the Messiah, you are doing well.

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Good points!

[Christina]

It seems things have gotten a bit more complicated than what was asked in the OP, "So, do you celebrate Christmas or not?"

:whisper For the record, up thread when I mentioned that I threw out my crystal ball and Merlin statue, it wasn't because I worshiped them. I never looked into the crystal to see the future, and I never idolized Merlin. Neither did I ever bow down to my Christmas trees, except maybe to pick up fallen ornament--no pun intended. :lol2

The simple answer to the OP is that all true Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus in our hearts, and we also celebrate it in various ways in accordance with our conscience. We celebrate because if He didn't come into the world as Savior, we would still have to pay the eternal wages for our sins.

Praise the Lord. :yeah

Amen sister!!

[EarsToHear]

I just did that this weekend as well! I read some literature online that convicted me of the music and books. That's actually why I was asking about the Christmas trees and the celebration on December 25. No more Temptations (!), Eric Clapton, so-called Christian rock, or pagan novels like James Rollins' (promotes esotericism, evolution, etc.) for me either! I started throwing stuff away, then got to wondering about even more stuff. :doh It does indeed seem to never end.:sad

Thanks also for the origins of the tree and Santa traditions.

You're welcome, CLJ. :hug

Like you, I didn't take any action until I was fully convicted to get rid of certain articles. I still have my Christian and family-made Christmas tree decorations, some of which I occasionally pull out of storage and hang on my large plants or on the fireplace mantle. And a perpetually boxed, stuffed Saint Nick from my aunt, who is now in heaven (I hope). And more. :lol2

It's hard to draw lines, that's why I'm so grateful for the Holy Spirit's guidance and for our freedom in Christ. :yeah

[wedunit]

The pagan holiday is just that. Do the research. There is not one thing about what is celebrated on Saturnalia that could be construed as "Christian" or Biblical.

We just found this forum, and and were hoping to find a true fit, but after reading the poll results, it don't look too good. I cannot see or understand how a true believer, seeking and asking for insight, wisdom and discernment could celebrate Christmas. Why not asknowlege HIS birth on HIS birthday, Sept 30-Oct 1?

[iSong6:3]

wedunit - We don't allow judging others on the basis of holidays.

16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

We'll be moving this to the Big Bubba thread on the subject, it's not a new argument to us.

[Steve53]

The pagan holiday is just that. Do the research. There is not one thing about what is celebrated on Saturnalia that could be construed as "Christian" or Biblical. I have much supporting info, if anyone is interested, pm me.

We just found this forum, and and were hoping to find a true fit, but after reading the poll results, it don't look too good. I cannot see or understand how a true believer, seeking and asking for insight, wisdom and discernment could celebrate Christmas. Why not asknowlege HIS birth on HIS birthday, Sept 30-Oct 1?


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