Big Bubba - The Holidays Threads Merged

[His Bride]

Very well stated! By setting aside a day a year (as Christians, we should do this EVERY day of year) it is also an OUTWARD appearance to non-Christians to enforce how important it is that we accept Christ as our savior. Some people only seem to go to church on Christmas and Easter, so we should seize the opportunity to get the gospel out and to witness to our non-Christian friends/family/peers. Salvation is for an eternity!

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[Anddra]

Why is it when we ask about this, phariseism comes up?

If you have not read my posts. i am not here to condemn or judge.
i am not a western christian. i amfrom the far east.
i am seeking the Truth about all this.

i agree that all we need to celebrate is the Lords supper. Thats His death, not birth.

Maybe you should read my post

I did read you posts, jckliew. I felt they they were coming across as judgemental. BTW, both my daughters are now older than the 7 to 15 age group you quote but they would have answered your question with a different response to the possible answers you put forward. They would both have said, The Lord's Supper.

Where we come from should not make any difference to us. We are Christians. That means we are not (or should not be) of this world. The Lord does not require anything different from someone who lives in the far east than He does from someone who lives in the west.

[jckliew]

I did read you posts, jckliew. I felt they they were coming across as judgemental. BTW, both my daughters are now older than the 7 to 15 age group you quote but they would have answered your question with a different response to the possible answers you put forward. They would both have said, The Lord's Supper.

Where we come from should not make any difference to us. We are Christians. That means we are not (or should not be) of this world. The Lord does not require anything different from someone who lives in the far east than He does from someone who lives in the west.

Praise God if they said that! Then ask them what is the Lords supper about?

i agree with you that where we are from 'should' not make any difference.
The point is really since you mentioned 'worldliness": is Christmas worldliness?
OR maybe its a western celebration, which i as an easterner do not need?

Yet i see over here in the far east:


Over here, the muslims have no qualms celebrating Christmas as it is a religious holiday. They even provide funds for the christians to celebrate it in the town square with the nativity et al. We all know they want the commercial activity associated with it. The christians gleefuly oblidge to doing this!

The emphasis on the celebration of a manmade festival has put the more important 'last supper' in the shade. Why?
My perception is that christians here see Christmas as a christian thing. i dont. i see it as a manmde festival which has invaded the minesets of eastern christians and promotes itself to be 'christian'.

Supposingly, theres no christmas festival from the start, what will eastern christians celebrate for His birth? Maybe nothing OR maybe the Feast of Tabernacles if they read their scriptures to establish the date.

My point is, as an easterrner, we have been brainwashed into thinking that Christmas is a christian thing. i am thinking as if theres no christmas to start with and find out what the heart of God is for.

i do not wanna to be like a 'Golden Arch' proponent moulded by what the world projects.

Thus my OP


Is it important to celebrate Christmas

For christians?

Shalom

[queengina66]

gina - With all due respect, truly, after this whole thread, after the clear words of Scripture, are we still copying and pasting the same things we've seen over and over, with no discussion?

And is this the Lorraine Day M.D. I just googled who has ethical issues and what's more, is theologically aberrant?

I got this far and could not read any more of her site as she is off-base:

"The present-day Jews are NOT God's 'Chosen People'. On this web site, you will find an in-depth analysis of the story behind the news...the bigger picture of the diabolical plan of the Illuminati and the Zionist Jews to destroy America and to rule the world."

And she goes on from there. No thanks. :nono


With all due respect I did not know we could not copy and paste. I am new at this board only been here a coulpe of months. I do however say this one paragraph I posted from her page was just a little history about Christmas.It was not a post about G-d's Chosen People whom I dearly love and fellowship with and attend a Messianic Congregation. I too have dear friends that are messianic jews that I hang out with.

As far as ethical issues I pray that she or maybe her love one will get on a board like RR and get the true understanding of the word and be shown some compassion in the love of christ and be won over. That she will find fellowship here like I have.

It will take true believers in christ that are practicing the Two Greatest Commandments to win her and others over that have this distasteable belief toward the jews.

However there have been other articles posted here and web links buy commentators that I don't necessarly believe all of what they say but they do have some valid history and points that I learn from. I don't throw all of what they say out because some of it is very useful and helpful.

Have a Blessed day! Thanks for your input.:pray in Love for the lost

[Betty]

I believe it is important for Christians to celebrate Christmas, for many reasons, but the most important is as long as we do, many non Christians at least once a year think about Christ. Think of how many children who see the celebration of Jesus, talk about Jesus with their parents. This forces even unbelievers to acknowledge Jesus at least once a year. If Christmas was not so important, the devil would not be fighting tooth and nail to remove Jesus from Christmas. Why do you think stores want to call Christmas..... Holiday?
It is because the devil wants to remove Jesus from Christmas. It seems the devil doesn't have to fight to remove Christ from Christmas for some Christians, they do it willingly. But as long as I have breath and my mental abilities, Christmas in our home will be about Christ.
betty

[Anddra]

Just as in Christendom, where there are those who are true and those who are false, so in the celebration of Christmas. There are those who are celebrating something in which the Lord Jesus has no place whatsoever, and there are those who put him first, last and all places in between in their celebrations.

If anyone has a conscience about celebrating Christmas then they should not do it. If they have liberty to celebrate it - and I mean by putting Christ at the center - then I have no problem with them doing so.

[His Bride]

Just as in Christendom, where there are those who are true and those who are false, so in the celebration of Christmas. There are those who are celebrating something in which the Lord Jesus has no place whatsoever, and there are those who put him first, last and all places in between in their celebrations.

If anyone has a conscience about celebrating Christmas then they should not do it. If they have liberty to celebrate it - and I mean by putting Christ at the center - then I have no problem with them doing so.

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[Tall Timbers]

I vote for Christmas and Easter. I like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

I don't really care for Halloween, so it wouldn't bother me if we could shut down Halloween, which, have you noticed, is increasingly an adult day of festivities... when I was a kid, it was for kids.

[jckliew]

I believe it is important for Christians to celebrate Christmas, for many reasons, but the most important is as long as we do, many non Christians at least once a year think about Christ. Think of how many children who see the celebration of Jesus, talk about Jesus with their parents. This forces even unbelievers to acknowledge Jesus at least once a year. If Christmas was not so important, the devil would not be fighting tooth and nail to remove Jesus from Christmas. Why do you think stores want to call Christmas..... Holiday?
It is because the devil wants to remove Jesus from Christmas. It seems the devil doesn't have to fight to remove Christ from Christmas for some Christians, they do it willingly. But as long as I have breath and my mental abilities, Christmas in our home will be about Christ.
betty

i agree its very important to celebrate in remembrance of our Lord. However, the command was not about celebrating His birth. He commanded to celebrate His death.

The gospel to unbelivers is about His death/ressurection. Are you sure Christmas is from God? Does your children think Christmas is more important than Death/Resurrection?

Why do we need to force non belivers to celebrate Christmas? In fact do they indeed acknowledge Jesus in christmas? The muslims celebrate over here. The malls are strewn with pictrues of Santa and snowflakes and trees! How the world takes to Christmas! i dont see the devil struggling?

Try celebrating Death/resurrection in your malls pls....

[jckliew]

Just as in Christendom, where there are those who are true and those who are false, so in the celebration of Christmas. There are those who are celebrating something in which the Lord Jesus has no place whatsoever, and there are those who put him first, last and all places in between in their celebrations.

If anyone has a conscience about celebrating Christmas then they should not do it. If they have liberty to celebrate it - and I mean by putting Christ at the center - then I have no problem with them doing so.


Amen! :hat
i just hate that the church should be cahoots with the world in 'celebrating' our Lord.

i amd just wondering, still, why the world cannot celebrate His death/resurrection as they do with Christmas? Perhaps theys see it as anon offensive western tradition? And unfortuntely, the church over here is helping them to think as such......... :idunno