Big Bubba - The Holidays Threads Merged

[iSong6:3]

Even if we have been given the freedom to observe holidays, eat anything we want, etc., I still refuse to celebrate any pagan holiday most especially this 'Christmas.' There is absolutely no evidence that Jesus Christ was born on that day. And it's completely pagan.

Celebrating this holiday is just like attending a Roman Catholic mass - well, it's still about Jesus right? Well why don't we just paste the name of Jesus Christ to every pagan holiday so that we can find an excuse to celebrate it because we like it? The way I see it, Christians who celebrate this December 25 holiday just want to compromise. :tsk

I know I will be grilled because of this post. :bricks

I would suggest you check your heart. You are calling Christians who love the Lord and take one day out of the year to celebrate His birth "compromisers", in clear violation of the Scriptures given and Board rules. :nono

The fact that you seem to feel superior and more *spiritual* shows more about you than Christmas celebrators, imo.

[Sing4Him]

We celebrate Christmas as we take complete delight and joy in knowing that God sent His only begotten son into the world to save those who come to Jesus in repentant faith.


Rejoicing in a day that can represent the exact day God did this for mankind is a complete blessing. We praise Jesus specially on this day as well as throughout the year for God's gift!


The way I see it, Christians who celebrate this December 25 holiday just want to compromise

The way we see this comment on this board is like this:


[22] Do Not Judge In An Unrighteous Manner - Determining that someone is less of, or not truly a Christian because of a perceived lack of spiritual gifts, worship style, observance or non-observance of holidays, divorced or remarried, political affiliation, not voting for a specific candidate, experiencing various trials, or because someone who confesses they are saved by grace through faith * in Christ, isn't, is not judging righteously. All members are encouraged to examine and judge doctrine held by other members in light of Biblical truth, but their salvation is a matter to be judged by Christ. (John 7:24; Matthew 7:1-2; John 5:25-29, I Corinthians 4:5)


It is with complete delight and JOY that we on earth in our non-glorified bodies have the privilege of praising God on a day that Jesus was born (or is representative of the day he was born) !

Glory to God in Heav'n on High!:yeah:yeah

[Gabby]

Even if we have been given the freedom to observe holidays, eat anything we want, etc., I still refuse to celebrate any pagan holiday most especially this 'Christmas.' There is absolutely no evidence that Jesus Christ was born on that day. And it's completely pagan.

Celebrating this holiday is just like attending a Roman Catholic mass - well, it's still about Jesus right? Well why don't we just paste the name of Jesus Christ to every pagan holiday so that we can find an excuse to celebrate it because we like it? The way I see it, Christians who celebrate this December 25 holiday just want to compromise. :tsk

I know I will be grilled because of this post. :bricks

I take it then that you don't worship on Sunday, right? Being that 'Sun-day' was actually legislated by Constantine as a day of rest for Greeks and Romans to honor Helios - the Sun God. He, himself, used that day to worship Christ, but it was designed for the Romans, in honor of their gods.

And by your own standards, better not acknowledge the months of January, February, March, etc. since they all were derived from pagan gods, as well. January is Janus, the god of doorways ~ March is from Mars, the pagan god of war.

The point I'm making is our calendar along with much of our ancient history is derived from some pagan starting point. Even the planets are named for pagan gods. The pagans were around way before the birth of Christ. Christians have simply taken what already existed and chose one day to be the representation of our joy at the birth of Christ. Most Christians rejoice every single day in His birth, yet one day is set aside in honor of the event.

[faithandgrace]

I've been listening to "A Christmas Question" by Charles Spurgeon off and on all morning. Interesting.

My spirit has been in a tug of war over Christmas and Easter, particularly Christmas. There is just something about the whole thing that doesn't sit right with me. I just can't get to the point like most Christians have where I know how to celebrate it.

[Paoshing]

[22] Do Not Judge In An Unrighteous Manner - Determining that someone is less of, or not truly a Christian because of a perceived lack of spiritual gifts, worship style, observance or non-observance of holidays, divorced or remarried, political affiliation, not voting for a specific candidate, experiencing various trials, or because someone who confesses they are saved by grace through faith * in Christ, isn't, is not judging righteously. All members are encouraged to examine and judge doctrine held by other members in light of Biblical truth, but their salvation is a matter to be judged by Christ. (John 7:24; Matthew 7:1-2; John 5:25-29, I Corinthians 4:5)


FYI, I am not questioning people's salvation because they celebrate this Roman Catholic holiday. I never stated that we shouldn't celebrate Christmas to be saved - that is adding works to God's GRACE. Plus there is no Biblical evidence that Jesus Christ was born on that date. Why celebrate it?

And replying to Gabby's post: no, every single day is worship day to me. I find it foolish to worship God only on Sundays or Saturdays. What about the rest of the week? Do we offer them to the devil? And no, I don't care about the Gregorian calendar.I prefer the Jewish Calendar. And the Jewish festivals are significant to me because they reveal much about my Saviour, Jesus Christ.

"Christians have simply taken what already existed..." - it is the Roman Catholic religion who chose December 25 not Christians! I am sorry, I am totally against anything that is of the RC religion.

Sigh, this is going nowhere. And I am risking myself of being quoted again in the www.fstdt.com. I am just waiting for my account to be terminated. I am no longer interested to be in this forum.

[kgreen20]

"Why celebrate it?"

Permit me to answer your question with a question of my own. Why not celebrate it?

After all, we celebrate one another's birthdays. We celebrate the birthdays of our loved ones. We even have national celebrations of great historicals figures--George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Jr., etc. We do it to honor these people. So why should we not celebrate the birthday of our Savior? I think we should, to honor Him.

I admire the Puritans for their desire to purify the Church of England, but one thing I cannot admire them for is their zeal to destroy Christmas. They even went so far as to ban the eating of mince pies, because mince pies were associated with Christmas. Instead, I can only echo what Scrooge's nephew said to him in Charles Dicken's great book, A Christmas Carol:


"There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have not profited, I dare say," returned the nephew. "Christmas among the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round--apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that--as a good time: a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me good; and I say, God bless it!"



Kathy G.

[HeIsEnough]

Even if we have been given the freedom to observe holidays, eat anything we want, etc., I still refuse to celebrate any pagan holiday most especially this 'Christmas.' There is absolutely no evidence that Jesus Christ was born on that day. And it's completely pagan.

I have news for ya, if its not Jewish, its Pagan.



Celebrating this holiday is just like attending a Roman Catholic mass - well, it's still about Jesus right? Well why don't we just paste the name of Jesus Christ to every pagan holiday so that we can find an excuse to celebrate it because we like it? The way I see it, Christians who celebrate this December 25 holiday just want to compromise. :tsk


To the Jew, I become as a Jew, to the Catholic, I become as a Catholic.

It wouldn't kill me at all if I went to a Catholic Mass. I'm not concerned over their formalities. That they know Christ, is enough. He will do the rest. Your doing your "best" in putting them down to their face over some holy day, won't do a thing.


I know I will be grilled because of this post. :bricks

Perhaps just some maturity is in order, in order to reach those you should love.

[HeIsEnough]

Sigh, this is going nowhere. And I am risking myself of being quoted again in the www.fstdt.com (http://www.fstdt.com). I am just waiting for my account to be terminated. I am no longer interested to be in this forum.

Your own feet can make that happen, no need for us to do anything.

However if you wish to learn ways to reach those around you, stick around..

[faithandgrace]

"Why celebrate it?"

Permit me to answer your question with a question of my own. Why not celebrate it?

After all, we celebrate one another's birthdays. We celebrate the birthdays of our loved ones. We even have national celebrations of great historicals figures--George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Jr., etc. We do it to honor these people. So why should we not celebrate the birthday of our Savior? I think we should, to honor Him.



I just wanted to say that I spent most of my life not celebrating those birthdays and while I no longer belong to a religion that forces me not to, I still don't understand why it seems to be such a "far out" concept. In my mind, if it were such an honor to Jesus to celebrate His birthday, He would've said so. But Jesus didn't tell us to celebrate His birth, yet most people spend just as much or more time acknowledging His birthday -- on the wrong day -- as they do His death and resurrection. And I've never understood "honoring" the birth of a sinful man, especially the likes of a couple of those listed above.

I'm actually rethinking the celebration of birthdays, myself. But that's the conclusion I've come to from my study and understanding of it all.

[josiah7]

What concerns me about holidays such as this is that it's a mixing of christian worship and pagan. My understanding of this mixing is that God does not like the sharing of His worship.

A tough question that has been ask of me, I will ask you, (concerning these days) When is a lie a lie?