Methodist Church Allows Transgendered Minister To Keep Job

[Beth O]

METHODIST CHURCH ALLOWS TRANSGENDERED MINISTER TO KEEP JOB (Friday
Church News Notes, November 9, 2007, www.wayoflife.org
fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - The Judicial Council of the
United Methodist Church recently voted to allow a "transgendered"
man/woman to keep his/her job as pastor of St. John's United
Methodist Church in Baltimore, Maryland. The pastor in question, the
"Rev." Drew Phoenix, was previous named Ann Gordon before undergoing
a sex change operation and hormone therapy. Now the Rev. Ann is the
Rev. Drew, and the liberal United Methodist Church is fine with it,
because "the denomination's Book of Discipline says nothing about
transgender clergy." The Bible says something about it, though. God
created man male and female, and sexual confusion and crossover is
the product of a reprobate mind (Romans 1:26-28).

[billiefan2000]

this dont surprise me the UMC did this

2 of the most Liberal and Lukewarm Churches in Omaha happen to be part of the UMC

and were among the Omaha Lukewarm 6 (there are sadly more than 6 lukewarm churches in Omaha but these 6 churches are the most vocal of them) as I call them considering howmuch Liberal Activism and Pro-Apostasy agendas those 6 churches push

(see) http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=12961


that invited Anne Lamott to speak in Omaha a few months back


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[true2yeshua]

:tsk

[lupins_girl]

Hmmm, that is strange.

I thought the Romans 1:26-1:28 referred to homosexuality. What exactly is transgender? Is it homosexuality?

[Sing4Him]

:tsk

[Beth O]

Hmmm, that is strange.

I thought the Romans 1:26-1:28 referred to homosexuality. What exactly is transgender? Is it homosexuality?

I believe the passage also relates to gender confusion as well as homosexuality.

[lupins_girl]

I believe the passage also relates to gender confusion as well as homosexuality.

Oh, is that what that is? I'm not sure I understand. How can someone be confused about what gender they are? Isn't it obvious we are either men or women?

[true2yeshua]

Hmmm, that is strange.

I thought the Romans 1:26-1:28 referred to homosexuality. What exactly is transgender? Is it homosexuality?

These are the byproducts of a hardened heart that rejects God and His Commands for the love of sin:

Rom 1:26-32

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections; for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature.

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their erro which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventers of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Rom 1:26-32

It is a sad and story affair:

1) Country rejects God

2) Family falls apart

3) Sodomy is normalized - celebrated, taught to youth, elevated to protected 'class' ....

This all results from man's denial of God. One must deny God and creationism in order to justify behavior, a.k.a. "I was born this way."

[KnightErrant]

Hmmm, that is strange.

I thought the Romans 1:26-1:28 referred to homosexuality. What exactly is transgender? Is it homosexuality?


No, it is not homosexuality, it is a different phenomenon altogether. Many people lump it in with homosexuality 1) because it is easy to put people into little categories to save the effort of thinking and 2) the TGs have joined the GLBT movement because no one else would have them. If the church had done it's job, and accepted TGs as they are, that would not have been necessary.
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Gender "confusion" comes when the brain sex differs from the physical sex. Yes, brains come in male and female forms just as the body does. When the two do not line up, then you have a TG person. Whether you can accept this depends on which you consider more important to thier identity, the brain or the body. I go with the brain as being more important.
:idunno
Many people insist on going simply by what they see, rather than what the person many know or feel about themselves. But as the scripture say, "God does not judge as Man judges, for Man judges by outward appearance, but God looks upon the Heart." I sure many will argue with my belief that this verse applies to the TG person, and that the verses on homosexuality do not, but in the end only God can judge.
:pray
I believe that this is one area where we do not dare condemn lest we be judged also.
:doh
So, let the games begin!
:aha

[CelticMist]

What about those who are born with both gender characteristics? Just curious here you all!!!