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SetApart
November 15th, 2007, 07:50 PM
is there any indication in scripture that speaks to how long each seal lasts? i was reading the "tribulation" thread that the false peace and safety may in fact be the period of time leading up to the "signing" (i thought it was CONFIRMING) of the covenant which is the onset of the 70th week.
then "sudden destruction cometh"..
got me wondering about how long the first seal was if in fact sudden destruction comes immediately upon the onset of the 70th week....the first seal is the white horse or "false peace"...
it would appear that this seal is very short in duration?
any thoughts?
what about the duration of the other seals?
CelticMist
November 15th, 2007, 11:12 PM
http://www.unityinchrist.com/prophecies/Biblical%20Prophecy.htm
try this site
LaMontre
November 16th, 2007, 10:10 AM
Dan 8:22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
Sydney Spider
November 17th, 2007, 11:08 PM
The context of Revelation indicates that the 7 Seals and 7 Trumpets transpire in the first half of the Tribulation i.e. just 3 1/2 years!
No wonder the prophet Daniel said that the end would come "like a flood".
The "false peace" of the First Seal will indeed be short-lived.
kgreen20
November 19th, 2007, 09:18 PM
My understanding is that the 1st seal will span the first half of the Tribulation, and that the remaining seals, trumpets, and bowls will span the second half. Because it is at the midpoint that physical judgment will break out.
Jany
November 19th, 2007, 11:32 PM
IMHO, the 1st 4 seals come fairly quickly:
Rev 6:1-2 - the "white horse"
Rev 6:3 -4 - "the fiery red horse"
Rev 6:5-6 - "the black horse"
Rev 6:7-8 - "the pale horse"
The opening of the 5th seal switches attention from the death of unbelievers to the death of believers. The last 3 seals will be very different from the 1st 4 and span , IMHO, longer periods of time <><
Chris
November 19th, 2007, 11:42 PM
My understanding is that the 1st seal will span the first half of the Tribulation, and that the remaining seals, trumpets, and bowls will span the second half. Because it is at the midpoint that physical judgment will break out.
Physical judgment breaks out at the very beginning of the 70th week.
http://www.gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/tribulation-7-years-or-3-5
Tribulation, 7 Years Or 3.5?
Ask a Bible Teacher
Q. I've written a few times before and I have a new question. I'm hearing a lot these days from the pre-wrath rapture camp that the Tribulation period is only 3.5 years instead of the traditional view of being 7 years long. They say that the Bible does not support a 7 year tribulation, but instead a 3.5 year tribulation. I do know that the Bible describes the last 3.5 years of the tribulation period as a time of "great tribulation", but it was my understanding that the seal judgments are also part of God's wrath, judgment, etc. and they clearly occur at the beginning of tribulation period. Do you support the tribulation period being 7 years long? Or if you don't, could you please address this issue?
A. Your request for clarification of end times events is a good one since there's a lot of confusion. Basically it boils down to this.
What many refer to as "the Tribulation Period" should really be called Daniel's 70th week. It's the missing 7 years from the 490 year period described in Daniel 9:24-27. I believe it was first referred to as the Tribulation Period by those who advocate the so-called mid-trib rapture position, but I could be wrong.
The Great Tribulation is the last half of Daniel's 70th week and is variously described as being 3.5 years, or 42 months, or 1260 days long. These are all equivalent periods if you use the original 360 day year.
In the Book of Revelation the time of God's Wrath is first mentioned as having begun in chapter 6 in conjunction with the Seal Judgments. The Trumpet Judgments are also part of God's wrath. They're found in Rev. 8-9 so they also precede the Great Tribulation which begins with the anti-Christ's ascension to world power in Rev. 13. Only the last cycle of Judgments, called the Seven Bowls of God's Wrath in Rev. 16, occurs during the Great Tribulation. What the pre-wrath rapture folks don't seem to understand is that with the Bowl Judgments His wrath is concluded, not begun. If the Church is going to be raptured before God's Wrath begins, then the Rapture has to take place in Rev. 4, right where the pre-trib folks have said all along.
Compatriot G
November 21st, 2007, 03:32 PM
If one divides the total number of days, 2520, by 21 judgments, it comes out to 120. I wonder if this is significant or not. I'm not suggesting that each judgment lasts 120 days, but I suppose it could mean there is a new one every 120 days. Or could mean absolutely nothing. I'm just throwing this out here as a thought.
PickensSlim
November 21st, 2007, 05:00 PM
Answer 1: Seals last until the shark gets them.
Answer 2: Depends on if the car is ferrin or domestic.
Sorry I couldn't resist:tsk
Slim
Chris
November 21st, 2007, 05:19 PM
Answer 1: Seals last until the shark gets them.
Answer 2: Depends on if the car is ferrin or domestic.
Sorry I couldn't resist:tsk
Slim
:aha :fishslap
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