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Ladybug
May 14th, 2007, 06:07 AM
What if they avoid capture, and accept christ?


If they accept Christ, then they would be Tribulation Saints. If they die before the Second Coming, they would go to heaven. If they are alive at that time, they would be on the New Earth (if I remember correctly; it's early in the a.m. :hehee ).

Veillifted
May 14th, 2007, 10:53 AM
If they accept Christ, then they would be Tribulation Saints. If they die before the Second Coming, they would go to heaven. If they are alive at that time, they would be on the New Earth (if I remember correctly; it's early in the a.m. :hehee ).

You summed it up perfectly...

:candle

BeenReady
May 14th, 2007, 11:42 AM
Did you read the Left Behind book when that guy received the mark but was still saved? That was basically bunk.

lisa
May 14th, 2007, 12:49 PM
Oh yeah.. the guy was held down and given the mark without his consent. I remember raising an eyebrow at that. I guess the premise was hanging on the word "accept". That character didn't "accept" the mark, he was "forced" to take the mark. Perhaps the authors were trying to make a point that it's a heart choice, and that force doesn't really come into play. Still, seemed like a reach to me. Thank God we won't be here to have to deal with it! :yeah

BlessedinHim
May 15th, 2007, 12:25 AM
Did you read the Left Behind book when that guy received the mark but was still saved? That was basically bunk.

In the book, the mark was forced on this one kid by his dad. Whether or not that might happen, I dont know, but he didnt accept the mark, it was put on him without his consent. You have to take the books for what they are. They are a fictional story based upon someones perspective of truth in prophecy.

I dont see how any group of people will have the infrastructure presented in the Left Behind Novel in the tribulation. Money will not be any good. Food will be scarce.

Will parents be allowed to force the mark on their children during that time? I dont know, I dont think the anti christ wants people who havent made up their mind. I am pretty sure each person will have to make up their own mind when the rubber hits the road. But, satan's plans will fail. How or what God uses to make them fail? who knows? Only the Lord knows how it will all play out, until then we are left with speculation on the little details, and the major detail will happen just like the bible says.

BeenReady
May 15th, 2007, 12:39 AM
Oh yeah.. the guy was held down and given the mark without his consent. I remember raising an eyebrow at that. I guess the premise was hanging on the word "accept". That character didn't "accept" the mark, he was "forced" to take the mark. Perhaps the authors were trying to make a point that it's a heart choice, and that force doesn't really come into play. Still, seemed like a reach to me. Thank God we won't be here to have to deal with it! :yeah

You're right. I forgot the details after reading it sooo long ago. I somehow feel that children won't be around when they implement the mark...but I could be wrong.

Arriving
May 15th, 2007, 03:24 AM
well the mark is to buy and sell, so maybe young children wouldn't need it or maybe they're raptured along with the believers:idunno

raptureme
May 15th, 2007, 06:23 AM
I always read "accept" as to a metaphor for desire.

Having the mark forced upon someone held down is like rape. I'm sure God would understand

Ladybug
May 15th, 2007, 08:59 AM
well the mark is to buy and sell, so maybe young children wouldn't need it or maybe they're raptured along with the believers:idunno

I'm assuming that babies will be born after the Rapture (plus we don't know how much time will lapse between the Rapture and beginning of the Tribulation) so by the end of the Trib there should be 6-7 year old children.

BlessedinHim
May 15th, 2007, 02:56 PM
When the rapture happens, the children who havent reached the aged of accountability, I believe, will be rapture, and the age of accountability, which is???? I think there will be some teenagers still here after the rapture. In this book, this young man was a ..... a young man, apparently after the age of accountability but still under is dad's rule, he was, afterall, oriental, and their culture is a little different than the US. I think bigger question to be raised is, would they give the mark to a person who is definitely against it but whose parents are in line behind him pushing him to take it.

I know this is all speculation and about a ficticious story based upon biblical truths. I think it is a good question, tho. but, another good question, a young adult or a child pass the age of accountability, why hasnt he accepted Christ? Fear of the parents? I can surely see that as a possiblility, there are some really domineering parents out in the world.

I am probably one of those domineering parents, just that I push that you should love God and you should seek Him and want to have Him live in your heart. I know I cant make them get saved, that is purely between them and the Lord, but I can make sure they know the difference and hope they choose Christ.