View Full Version : Will everyone who refuses the mark of the beast go to heaven?
Arriving
May 13th, 2007, 02:03 AM
I used to be mormon and i think most mormons won't want to accept the mark of the beast even though i wouldn't classify most of them as christians with true saving faith in the true jesus, so would everyone who denys the mark go to heaven or could you deny it and still end up in hell or do you think unorthodox christians such as mormons will have to chose to either become a true christian or to accept the mark even though mormons believe they shouldn't?:scratch
Buzzardhut
May 13th, 2007, 02:07 AM
I used to be mormon and i think most mormons won't want to accept the mark of the beast even though i wouldn't classify most of them as christians with true saving faith in the true jesus, so would everyone who denys the mark go to heaven or could you deny it and still end up in hell or do you think unorthodox christians such as mormons will have to chose to either become a true christian or to accept the mark even though mormons believe they shouldn't?:scratch
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Arriving
May 13th, 2007, 02:31 AM
but during the tribulation in revelation, it basically says the people who accept the mark end up in hell and those who don't are the saved ones, so do you think most mormons during the tribulation end up accepting the mark even though they're warned not to by mormon teachings?
TheOddBall34
May 13th, 2007, 04:02 AM
It depends on how the mark is presented. When your in line to get the mark they might ask you if you will accept it, or God. If they accept God they probably would accept Jesus. When this happens they will be executed which is the beheading probably. Wether that means you are saved, I think out of this thinking they may repent, but not sure. What is guaranteed is if you accept the mark it is an automatic ticket to hell.
Ladybug
May 13th, 2007, 05:33 AM
I think (always dangerous!) that there will be people who won't take the mark because they were taught what it means and they refuse to do so. And there will always be those who won't do what the government wants and conform, come heck or high water. However, that does not mean they have accepted Jesus and His saving grace. They're basically staying neutral, as it were.
TheOddBall34
May 13th, 2007, 08:45 AM
I think (always dangerous!) that there will be people who won't take the mark because they were taught what it means and they refuse to do so. And there will always be those who won't do what the government wants and conform, come heck or high water. However, that does not mean they have accepted Jesus and His saving grace. They're basically staying neutral, as it were.
My question is if these people were not true believers that did not accept the mark why would they want to die a horrible death? Chances are if they do not believe they will just accept it so they do not head off to swift execution. You never know people these days they do some crazy things.
Arriving
May 13th, 2007, 12:47 PM
I think (always dangerous!) that there will be people who won't take the mark because they were taught what it means and they refuse to do so. And there will always be those who won't do what the government wants and conform, come heck or high water. However, that does not mean they have accepted Jesus and His saving grace. They're basically staying neutral, as it were.
if neutral people didn't get the mark, do you think they'll just die anyway (either they're killed or starve to death). And if they die wouldn't they go to hell anyway since they didn't accept christ?
Ladybug
May 13th, 2007, 07:45 PM
if neutral people didn't get the mark, do you think they'll just die anyway (either they're killed or starve to death). And if they die wouldn't they go to hell anyway since they didn't accept christ?
I'm sure that some would die by being killed or starving; some would probably survive by avoiding capture or having other people feed them. And yes, I think they would still end up in hell since they didn't accept Christ. But under such horrific conditions people don't always think logically; they're just thinking about the immediate problem (the mark) and not the long-range problem (eternity). Also, I suspect that a lot of hearts will be hardened by that time.
TheOddBall34
May 13th, 2007, 10:13 PM
What if they avoid capture, and accept christ?
CelticMist
May 14th, 2007, 12:31 AM
Back in the year 1972 a movie came out titled "A Thief in the Night", it was filmed in Iowa and Nebraska, by a church up in that area.... so not Hollywood perfect. Along with this movie they made three others....
"A Distant Thunder" (1978)
"Image of the Beast" (1980)
"A Prodical Planet" (1983)
The one girl in it, ran around with two sisters after her husband vanished in the first moive. The second movie Patty, Wenda (her husband also was rapture), and Sandy are caught by the Patrol Guard that wears on the sleeve "Unite" (the bad guys that follow the AC).
They are taken into a church, waiting for their names to be called. Lo and behold, all three are called. Wenda and Patty refused the "mark of the beast"... its a shock affect in the next scene. They are blindfolded, led outside where the blindfolds come off. There in view is a guillotine....they are given one last chance to take the "mark of the beast". Wenda goes to the guillotine. Out comes Sandy, who up to this point you thought she was saved... has received the "mark". They led.. dragging Patty to the guillotine... they lay her on the bed, stretch her arms out and attempt placing the shackle locks on her wrist and her legs. Suddenly the earth shakes... you hear Patty screaming... I want the mark, I want the mark. I don't think she went to heaven!!!
Anyone that refuses the "mark of the beast" during the tribulation, will literally die for believing in Christ Jesus.
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