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Lexie
November 23rd, 2007, 10:44 PM
A Christian response to "A common word between US and YOU"



All these pastors signed this letter below for the interfaith UN religion.

Bill Hybels, Rick Warren, Robert Schuller, Jim Wallis, William Taylor global ambassador World Evangelical Alliance, Richard Mouw, Brian Mclaren, Steve Knight Emergent Village, Tony Jones, Diana Eck, Richard Cizik, David Yonggi Cho, ect



In the name of the Infinitely Good God
whom we should love with all our Being

Preamble
As members of the worldwide Christian community, we were deeply encouraged and challenged by the recent historic open letter signed by 138 leading Muslim scholars, clerics, and intellectuals from around the world. A*Common Word Between Us and You identifies some core common ground between Christianity and Islam which lies at the heart of our respective faiths*as well as at the heart of the most ancient Abrahamic faith, Judaism. Jesus Christ’s call to love God and neighbor was rooted in the divine revelation to the people of Israel embodied in the Torah (Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18). We receive the open letter as a Muslim hand of conviviality and cooperation extended to Christians world-wide. In this response we*extend our own Christian hand in return, so that together with all other human beings we may live in peace and justice as we seek to love God and our*neighbors.

Muslims and Christians have not always shaken hands in friendship; their*relations have sometimes been tense, even characterized by outright hostility. Since Jesus Christ says, “First take the log out your own eye, and*then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye” (Matthew 7:5), we want to begin by acknowledging that in the past (e.g. in the Crusades) and in the present (e.g. in excesses of the “war on terror”) many*Christians have been guilty of sinning against our Muslim neighbors. Before*we “shake your hand” in responding to your letter, we ask forgiveness of the All-Merciful One and of the Muslim community around the world.

Religious Peace—World Peace
“Muslims and Christians together make up well over half of the world’s population. Without peace and justice between these two religious communities, there can be no meaningful peace in the world.” We share the sentiment of the Muslim signatories expressed in these opening lines of their*open letter. Peaceful relations between Muslims and Christians stand as*one of the central challenges of this century, and perhaps of the whole present epoch. Though tensions, conflicts, and even wars in which Christians and Muslims stand against each other are not primarily religious in character, they possess an undeniable religious dimension. If we can achieve religious peace between these two religious communities, peace in the world will clearly be easier to attain. It is therefore no exaggeration to say, as you have in A Common Word Between Us and You, that “the future of the world depends on peace between Muslims and Christians.”

Common Ground
What is so extraordinary about A Common Word Between Us and You is not*that its signatories recognize the critical character of the present moment in relations between Muslims and Christians. It is rather a deep insight and courage with which they have identified the common ground between the*Muslim and Christian religious communities. What is common between us*lies not in something marginal nor in something merely important to each. It lies, rather, in something absolutely central to both: love of God and loveof*neighbor. Surprisingly for many Christians, your letter considers the dual command of love to be the foundational principle not just of the Christian faith, but of Islam as well. That so much common ground exists – common ground in some of the fundamentals of faith – gives hope that undeniable differences and even the very real external pressures that bear down upon us can not overshadow the common ground upon which we*stand*together. That this common ground consists in love of God and ofneighbor gives hope that deep cooperation between us can be a hallmark of*the relations between our two communities.

Love of God
We applaud that A Common Word Between Us and You stresses so insistently the unique devotion to one God, indeed the love of God, as the primary duty of every believer. God alone rightly commands our ultimate allegiance. When anyone or anything besides God commands our ultimate*allegiance – a ruler, a nation, economic progress, or anything else – we end up serving idols and inevitably get mired in deep and deadly conflicts.

We find it equally heartening that the God whom we should love above all*things is described as being Love. In the Muslim tradition, God, “the Lord*of the worlds,” is “The Infinitely Good and All-Merciful.” And the New Testament states clearly that “God is love” (1 John 4:8). Since God’s goodness*is infinite and not bound by anything, God “makes his sun rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous,” according to the words of Jesus Christ recorded in the Gospel (Matthew*5:45).**

For Christians, humanity’s love of God and God’s love of humanity are intimately linked. As we read in the New Testament: “We love because he [God] first loved us” (1 John 4:19). Our love of God springs from and is nourished by God’s love for us. It cannot be otherwise, since the Creator who has power over all things is infinitely good.

Love of Neighbor
We find deep affinities with our own Christian faith when A Common Word Between Us and You insists that love is the pinnacle of our duties toward our*neighbors. “None of you has faith until you love for your neighbor what you love for yourself,” the Prophet Muhammad said. In the New Testament we similarly read, “whoever does not love [the neighbor] does not know God” (1 John 4:8) and “whoever does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen” (1 John 4:20). God is love, and our highest calling as human beings is to imitate the One whom we worship.

We applaud when you state that “justice and freedom of religion are a crucial part” of the love of neighbor. When justice is lacking, neither love of God*nor*love of the neighbor can be present. When freedom to worship God according to one’s conscience is curtailed, God is dishonored, the neighbor oppressed, and neither God nor neighbor is loved.

Since Muslims seek to love their Christian neighbors, they are not against them, the document encouragingly states. Instead, Muslims are with them. As Christians we resonate deeply with this sentiment. Our faith teaches that we must be with our neighbors – indeed, that we must act in their favor – even when our neighbors turn out to be our enemies. “But I say unto you,” says Jesus Christ, “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good” (Matthew 5:44-45). Our love, Jesus Christ says, must imitate the love of the infinitely good Creator; our love must be as unconditional as is God’s—extending to brothers, sisters, neighbors, and even enemies. At the end of his life, Jesus Christ himself prayed for his enemies: “Forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing” (Luke 23:34).

The Prophet Muhammad did similarly when he was violently rejected and stoned by the people of Ta’if. He is known to have said, “The most virtuous behavior is to engage those who sever relations, to give to those who withhold from you, and to forgive those who wrong you.” (It is perhaps significant that after the Prophet Muhammad was driven out of Ta’if, it was the Christian slave ‘Addas who went out to Muhammad, brought him food, kissed him, and embraced him.)

The Task Before Us
“Let this common ground” – the dual common ground of love of God and of*neighbor – “be the basis of all future interfaith dialogue between us,” your courageous letter urges. Indeed, in the generosity with which the letter is written you embody what you call for. We most heartily agree. Abandoning all “hatred and strife,” we must engage in interfaith dialogue as those who seek each other’s good, for the one God unceasingly seeks our good. Indeed, together with you we believe that we need to move beyond “a polite ecumenical dialogue between selected religious leaders” and work diligently together to reshape relations between our communities and our nations so that they genuinely reflect our common love for God and for one another.

Given the deep fissures in the relations between Christians and Muslims today, the task before us is daunting. And the stakes are great. The future of the world depends on our ability as Christians and Muslims to live together in peace. If we fail to make every effort to make peace and come together in harmony you correctly remind us that “our eternal souls” are at stake as well.

We are persuaded that our next step should be for our leaders at every level*to meet together and begin the earnest work of determining how God would have us fulfill the requirement that we love God and one another. It is with humility and hope that we receive your generous letter, and we commit*ourselves to labor together in heart, soul, mind and strength for the*objectives you so appropriately propose. :heythere :doh

http://www.yale.edu/faith/abou-commonword.htm

Butterflykisses
November 23rd, 2007, 10:53 PM
To much is given, much is required.

Lexie
November 23rd, 2007, 10:56 PM
Repeatedly throughout that letter the Muslims had written they were denying the Diety of Christ Jesus being Gods Son, and these so called men of God look the other way.

I notice that too Christine, It's unfolding right before our eyes. It's a time to rejoice, and also pray for our loved ones, I have quite a few unsaved in my family, and it hurts.

pegmo
November 23rd, 2007, 11:09 PM
It just seems to be crystallizing before our eyes.

I think the apostasy is the linking of Christianity/name of Jesus Christ and the God of the bible with Islam and the God of Satan. What a stench that must be to God the Father and the atonement of Jesus Christ.

And I think it will produce the false prophet who will head up the official joint religion in Jerusalem and I do think the likely leader of the new joint faith will be the pope as the world's idea of the best representative of christianity and religious tolerance. And I think the political authority in Jerusalem will be muslim to provide balance to the pope and the christian influence. And this will be the anti-christ because he then confirms the peace agreement for Jerusalem. And Satan nicely rounds out this false trinity.

All in the name of peace and security.

Final Trumpet
November 23rd, 2007, 11:18 PM
This goes right along with the Rick Warren/PDL article posted earlier. This is the ultimate goal and end of the PDL movement...the uniting of all religions and establishment of a united religion under the AC. The PDL has been a great deception to infiltrate the church and subvert it to follow the AC. It is all coming together...
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Christian Leaders Invite Muslims to Love God, Neighbors Together

Christian leaders across denominational lines responded to the unprecedented open letter signed last month by 138 representative Muslim leaders with their own letter, calling on the two Abrahamic faiths to love God and neighbors together.

Over 100 theologians, ministry leaders, and prominent pastors have thus far signed the response letter issued by the Yale Center for Faith and Culture.

Signers include Jim Wallis, president of Sojourners; Rick Warren, founder and senior pastor of Saddleback Church; John Stott, rector emeritus of All Souls Church in London; and Leith Anderson, president of the National Association of Evangelicals.

The Christian signatories said they “share the sentiments” of the Muslim leaders who pointed out that Muslims and Christians make up over half of the world’ population and therefore true peace cannot occur as long as conflict persists between the two religious communities.

“Peaceful relations between Muslims and Christians stand as one of the central challenges of this century, and perhaps of the whole present epoch,” wrote the Christian leaders.

Full Article (http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071123/30194_Christian_Leaders_Invite_Muslims_to_Love_God %2C_Neighbors_Together.htm)

Just Ron
November 23rd, 2007, 11:25 PM
:groan

This "interfaith" crap is for the birds.

There is ONE way to God the Father and it ain't buddah, confuscious, Barney Fife nor anyone else! :tsk

His Name is Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Messiah!

I'm not surprised with Rick signing up, but John Stott, I am.

MrMannn
November 24th, 2007, 08:28 AM
This letter would have been more personal if it had included, the following sentence:
"Since we are seeking peace and unity, it shouldn't be too difficult for you to call off the terrorists who are bombing, raping, and beheading innocent civilians. And perhaps you could extend your influence to stop the genocide on non-muslims in Darfur?
in short: STOP KILLING US! Thank you.

All the peace and happy thoughts in the world are useless if one side keeps killing the other.

sophie
November 24th, 2007, 08:48 AM
Though I do not believe the two faiths can inter-mix nor ever see eye to eye doctrinally, I see two viable thoughts that surface: 1) We are ALL God's Children - ALL decendants of Abraham and 2) We should love them. At least enough to pray for them. It is amazing the number of Muslims who are converting to Christianity over there, albeit underground, but converting nonetheless. :yeah

Yes, there are many who are terrorists (or support and/or condone terrorist tactics) but there are many who don't. Just as it would be unfair to sterotype Christians like the Crusaders, I think we need to be very careful with our judgments. Again, they are our brothers and sisters.

In regards to the goal of the letter, I agree linking Christianity to Islam is an apostasy.

heybales219
November 24th, 2007, 09:03 AM
:puke

J4E
November 24th, 2007, 09:59 AM
ah yes..... "interfaith" or in other words the one World Religion

joe ross posted a great video about the keywords that really equal one world religion.

Great Watch! :thumb

http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=23325