Sing4Him
November 25th, 2007, 06:59 PM
DOUG PAGITT OF THE EMERGENT CHURCH TALKS ABOUT THE “DISTURBED” PARENTING OF JOHN PIPER AND HOW PIPER IS IN THE DARK AGES
The quiet arrogance of Doug Pagitt, a leading voice in the neo-liberal cult of the Emergent Church, is on display here in this interview when he appeared on The Nick and Josh Podcast. This was done Augugst 13, 2007 not long after the bridge in Minneapolis over the Mississippi River collapsed.
And in the course of the interview, partially transcribed by Apprising Ministries below, Pagitt is speaking of things which irritate him. One of them he mentions is: “Bridges collapsing; that’s a grievance in and of itself.” The next section of the podcast with “amateur brewer” Josh Brown goes:
Josh: Yeah, the only problem is when, ah, John Piper an' stuff, just talk about total depravity an' evil and how God controls things like robots but-
Pagitt: You know I, ah [pause] I read the [Josh: That’s neither here nor there]—he had a little installment on ah, some blog that he keeps; um, call—something about putting his daughter to bed. And um—
Josh: Teaching her about evil.
Pagitt: It was; it was among the most disturbed sorts of things that I think a parent could say to a kid. And then to write about is disturbing in its own-in its own [pause] right.
And ah; I just thought, man there is so much work to do to try to pull religious peop—many religious people—out of the Dark Ages. It's just truly; it’s almost as if it’s not gonna happen.
Josh: That’s, that’s what I thought when I was reading it; I was like, “This is medieval.” This is eh—
Pagitt: Yeah.
Josh: These are the same people though, you know, like throw you in the lake to see if you are a witch.
Pagitt: (laughs heartily) I’m sorry, I had Monty Python running through my head and Saturday Night Live skits. Yeah, I - I [pause] mean it’s just ahm, awh—
Josh: It’s such a great bedtime story too.
Pagitt: Oh yeah.
Josh: Before you go to bed let me, ah, just teach you about death; that’s what I want you to go to sleep to.
Pagitt: Yeah like there’s one little line in there where she said do you think God made this, or let this happen, or caused it to happen or something; to show people that they're sinners. [As Piper] “I’m sure honey; I’m sure that’s why it happened.”
I mean [Josh snickers in the background] it’s [pause] and look, I mean I know John is a, is a, is a devout guy and all that, and we all have the right to be [pause] wrong about things. (8:36-10:09)
Well, the article Josh Brown and Doug Pagitt are ridiculing above is called [I]Putting My Daughter to Bed Two Hours After the Bridge Collapsed. You can make up your own mind. But as far as I’m concerned one thing is pretty clear to me; Doug Pagitt of the emerging church is no genuine Christian pastor.:tsk
http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/11/doug_pagitt_of_1.html
The quiet arrogance of Doug Pagitt, a leading voice in the neo-liberal cult of the Emergent Church, is on display here in this interview when he appeared on The Nick and Josh Podcast. This was done Augugst 13, 2007 not long after the bridge in Minneapolis over the Mississippi River collapsed.
And in the course of the interview, partially transcribed by Apprising Ministries below, Pagitt is speaking of things which irritate him. One of them he mentions is: “Bridges collapsing; that’s a grievance in and of itself.” The next section of the podcast with “amateur brewer” Josh Brown goes:
Josh: Yeah, the only problem is when, ah, John Piper an' stuff, just talk about total depravity an' evil and how God controls things like robots but-
Pagitt: You know I, ah [pause] I read the [Josh: That’s neither here nor there]—he had a little installment on ah, some blog that he keeps; um, call—something about putting his daughter to bed. And um—
Josh: Teaching her about evil.
Pagitt: It was; it was among the most disturbed sorts of things that I think a parent could say to a kid. And then to write about is disturbing in its own-in its own [pause] right.
And ah; I just thought, man there is so much work to do to try to pull religious peop—many religious people—out of the Dark Ages. It's just truly; it’s almost as if it’s not gonna happen.
Josh: That’s, that’s what I thought when I was reading it; I was like, “This is medieval.” This is eh—
Pagitt: Yeah.
Josh: These are the same people though, you know, like throw you in the lake to see if you are a witch.
Pagitt: (laughs heartily) I’m sorry, I had Monty Python running through my head and Saturday Night Live skits. Yeah, I - I [pause] mean it’s just ahm, awh—
Josh: It’s such a great bedtime story too.
Pagitt: Oh yeah.
Josh: Before you go to bed let me, ah, just teach you about death; that’s what I want you to go to sleep to.
Pagitt: Yeah like there’s one little line in there where she said do you think God made this, or let this happen, or caused it to happen or something; to show people that they're sinners. [As Piper] “I’m sure honey; I’m sure that’s why it happened.”
I mean [Josh snickers in the background] it’s [pause] and look, I mean I know John is a, is a, is a devout guy and all that, and we all have the right to be [pause] wrong about things. (8:36-10:09)
Well, the article Josh Brown and Doug Pagitt are ridiculing above is called [I]Putting My Daughter to Bed Two Hours After the Bridge Collapsed. You can make up your own mind. But as far as I’m concerned one thing is pretty clear to me; Doug Pagitt of the emerging church is no genuine Christian pastor.:tsk
http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/11/doug_pagitt_of_1.html