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dramama
November 27th, 2007, 04:34 PM
Stephen Jarislowsky, a billionaire money manager and investor the Canadian newspaper Globe and Mail bills as the Canadian Warren Buffet, has told a parliamentary committee Canada and the United States both should abandon their national dollar currencies and move to a regional North American currency as soon as possible.

"I think we have to really seriously start thinking of the model of a continental currency just like Europe," Jarislowsky told the Canadian House of Commons' finance committee, according to the Globe and Mail in Toronto.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58877
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071123.RDOLLAR23/TPStory/?query=%22Steven+Chase%22

frodo82801
November 28th, 2007, 08:33 AM
This is the first person I've heard of who supports the Amero.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

Butterflykisses
November 28th, 2007, 09:01 AM
It's coming...:pray

ojibweindian
November 28th, 2007, 09:27 AM
It's coming...:pray

And likely soon, if the dollar keeps sliding and economic conditions become severe. It's my belief that adopting the Amero as a currency, and the formation of the NAU, would be the only way the United States, Mexico, and Canada would survive a serious depression and maintain a semblance of civilization at its current level in North America.

frodo82801
November 28th, 2007, 11:53 AM
If there are any US politicians who favor the amero, they are keeping it very secret. No one wants to unite with Mexico or Canada. They aren't even floating trial balloons.

If we're going to unite with Mexico, why are they building a fence?

ojibweindian
November 28th, 2007, 12:38 PM
There aren't any completed new fences; just the same ole fence that has been around for decades. And the talk of stronger fences by our elected officials is just that, talk. Also, there hasn't been any construction of fences along the border by the Feds, at all. The only fence in the process of being built, is being constructed by the Minute Men (and it's construction has indefinitely stalled).

And, you do realize that "amnesty" is still being tossed around in the cloak rooms and offices of the Senate and House, right? The only thing that's changed in regards to immigration is that there isn't a politician out there, at this time, that will openly support amnesty.

frodo82801
November 28th, 2007, 01:12 PM
Hmmm. That's not what I'm reading or hearing. The fence is evidently going up.

ojibweindian
November 28th, 2007, 01:31 PM
From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States-Mexico_barrier

[edit] Rethinking the expansion
House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-MD) announced in January 2007 that Congress will revisit the fence plan, while committee chairs are holding up funding until a comprehensive border security plan is presented by the Department of Homeland Security. Both Senators from Texas, John Cornyn (R-TX) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), advocate revising the plan.[4]

Construction of the border fence will not be subject to any laws. This is because in 2005 the Real ID Act, attached as a rider to a supplemental appropriations bill funding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, decreed, “Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall have the authority to waive all legal requirements such Secretary, in such Secretary’s sole discretion, determines necessary to ensure expeditious construction of the barriers and roads under this section.” On September 22, 2005, Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff used his new power to “waive in their entirety” the Endangered Species Act, the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, the National Environmental Policy Act, the Coastal Zone Management Act, the Clean Water Act, the Clean Air Act, and the National Historic Preservation Act to extend triple fencing through the Tijuana River National Estuarine Research Reserve near San Diego . The Real ID Act further stipulates that his decisions are not subject to judicial review, and in December 2005 a federal judge dismissed legal challenges by the Sierra Club, the Audubon Society, and others to Chertoff’s decision.



Synopsis: foot dragging. No substantive fence in place, or is imminently planned for construction.

http://www.house.gov/hunter/fence.htm

Synopsis: fencing under construction on border of San Diego County, and Mexico. Where's the rest of the fence to protect the entire California border?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/05/AR2006100501935.html

No sooner did Congress authorize construction of a 700-mile fence on the U.S.-Mexico border last week than lawmakers rushed to approve separate legislation that ensures it will never be built, at least not as advertised, according to Republican lawmakers and immigration experts.



synopsis: the fence promised will not be delivered.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6626823

A fence-building company in Southern California agrees to pay nearly $5 million in fines for hiring illegal immigrants. Two executives from the company may also serve jail time. The Golden State Fence Company's work includes some of the border fence between San Diego and Mexico.


Synopsis: illegals are being hired to build the border fence. Ironic, eh?

Over 1.2 billion dollars has been allocated to build a fence, but the "...Homeland Security Department would have flexibility to choose other options instead of fencing, if needed."

From http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15424055/

I personally doubt that any meaningful fence is going to be built. I also think that we're gonna see another attempt at amnesty in the not-to-distant future.

frodo82801
November 28th, 2007, 07:29 PM
I guess a lot of people are lying. Imagine that.

ojibweindian
November 28th, 2007, 08:44 PM
I guess a lot of people are lying. Imagine that.

Yeah. Pretty pathetic, isn't it?