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Near
November 27th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Okay.
I have a mild question about the Book of Enoch.
I was in Borders looking at some books and I saw something on the Book of Enoch. On the back it said that in the Midevil ages and between those times the Church had ordered that the book of Enoch be taken out of the Bible because they didn't want the public to see what it said. Well, supposedly they said that it was because the Book of Enoch explained how angels AND demons could manifest themselves inside the human body or create a human body and come here to Earth. Is this true because I'm slightly confuzzled by this.:scratch

MrMannn
November 27th, 2007, 05:58 PM
Its a satanic deception. In the midle ages satan inspired evil men to write a bunch of false gospels to deceive the masses. They were called the gnostic gospels. All claimed to be true, but all were false. They spread widespread confusion and the Church had to purge the evil from its midst.

Stay away from this. Its from the hand of satan. There is no good that can come from it.

A Berean
November 27th, 2007, 06:03 PM
Its a satanic deception. In the midle ages satan inspired evil men to write a bunch of false gospels to deceive the masses. They were called the gnostic gospels. All claimed to be true, but all were false. They spread widespread confusion and the Church had to purge the evil from its midst.

Stay away from this. Its from the hand of satan. There is no good that can come from it.

I agree, and this "gnosticism" is coming back into the Emergent/PDL/New Age/ RCC:fear!! STAY AWAY from these teachings :runhills !!!

BrckBrln
November 27th, 2007, 06:03 PM
Wasn't part of the Book of Enoch found among the Dead Sea Scrolls?

Near
November 27th, 2007, 06:08 PM
Its a satanic deception. In the midle ages satan inspired evil men to write a bunch of false gospels to deceive the masses. They were called the gnostic gospels. All claimed to be true, but all were false. They spread widespread confusion and the Church had to purge the evil from its midst.

Stay away from this. Its from the hand of satan. There is no good that can come from it.

I knew that sounded fishy. I was like, Why would God write something like this?

I agree, and this "gnosticism" is coming back into the Emergent/PDL/New Age/ RCC:fear!! STAY AWAY from these teachings :runhills !!!

I have heard of gnosticism...I never knew it was inspired by this. Thanks for the advice! I hate False Teachings!!! :runhills

Wasn't part of the Book of Enoch found among the Dead Sea Scrolls?

I believe it was.

MrMannn
November 27th, 2007, 06:14 PM
Wasn't part of the Book of Enoch found among the Dead Sea Scrolls?
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Its a fraud from the middle ages. Its NOT in the dead sea scrolls.

Near
November 27th, 2007, 07:44 PM
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Its a fraud from the middle ages. Its NOT in the dead sea scrolls.

Lol, it seems like everything from the Middle Ages was a fraud. xD

Obadiah
November 27th, 2007, 11:31 PM
MrMannn, you're simply wrong. Portions of 1 Enoch were found among the Dead Sea Scrolls. You can find this fact in any book on the subject, including The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible by Abegg, Flint and Ulrich.

(There are actually three books attributed to Enoch. 1 Enoch is the one everybody talks about. It consists of five sections written at different times -- likely between 200 BCE and 50 CE -- and later compiled. 2 Enoch is a late first-century composition. 3 Enoch dates from the 5th or 6th c. CE.)

Enoch is not held to be canonical except by the Ethiopian church (the text is preserved largely in an Ethiopic translation; only fragments of a presumably original Aramaic text are extant).

The issue of Jude's citation of Enoch is complicated.

But 1 Enoch is not a medieval composition.

antsinmypants
November 28th, 2007, 05:34 AM
Obadiah is correct.

Buzzardhut
November 28th, 2007, 06:34 AM
Book of Enoch is used by Gnostics (Pseudapigrapha) and Orthodox (Apocrypha)