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Mishka

November 28th, 2007, 01:34 AM

tom_roberts

November 28th, 2007, 01:47 AM

nut job------- or working for the nwo:idunno
i do not trust him, he is a name gatherer

as in if you go to his site your on the ''list'' so to speak imo

he make money off of this , and his claims are not always credible

I heard he faked the whole grove thing

its the ALEX JONES SHOW:rolleyes

Lexie

November 28th, 2007, 03:13 PM

I used to REALLY be into listening to Alex Jones and his articles, website, etc. While I agree with a lot of his stuff sometimes there's just this tickling suspicion in the back of my mind.... I think he's dead on with a lot of things but even though he's a christian it seems like he goes off into the deep end quite frequently and loses sight of things.

Opinions? Warnings?

They call themselves the remnant, they are british Israel, church of God, mixed in with the teachings of Texx Marrs, Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell, Jeff Rense who hates Israel, some of them even claim that Arafat and the Palestinians are the Jews, ect. Alex calls God, YAH, YHWH.

They believe the USA and England are Israel, and the tribulation white horse was sent out on 911, the Jew's, are not real Jew's, they have to turn them into Easu, because they really believe they are the remnant themselves, and the two wittnesses.

Read the article called "The Gospel of Judas, Barbelo and Long-Kept Secrets"
The women who wrote it, has visions of cosmic christ, despises Israel, saying Israel declared itself a state within the nation of Palestine, and much much worse. How can the church mix with these teachers?

http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=8878&page=2

A REMNANT RESTORES THE ONLY TRUE HEBREW FAITH OF THE APOSTLES AND PROPHETS!!"Come out of her, my people, that you partake not in her plagues!" -Revelation 18:4

*

Were you aware that the paganized Christianity of today was NOT the religion of the Hebrew Messiah nor His Apostles? Did the Apostles teach and practice the pagan fertility customs of the Babylonian goddess Eashtar? or dress up in masks at Halloween playing trick or treat in honor of the dead? or cut down and erect Christmas trees at the winter solstice while lighting child-sacrifice "yule" logs?* The pagan pastors, rabbis and priests of Babylonian Christianity and Judaism are wolves in sheep's clothing-deceiving the world and being deceived!* The Remnant of YHWH will restore the treasure of YHWH's Covenant Invitation to mankind from the beginning!

Also, in an effort to deny the importance of YHWH's great and "memorial" Name (Yahweh), pagan Christianity contends that the writings of the New Covenant Hebrew-Jewish Apostles were originally composed in the Greek language. They assume that because the LATER sources, from which this New Covenant were translated are Greek, that original Hebrew Names - required for salvation (Yahweh and Yahsha Messiah the Son) are missing - therefore MUST be unnecessary. Is this logical? Does changing / altering / removing the Name of the Savior of the world justify it's acceptance by those seeking His true inspired Plan of Salvation? Will the Author of Salvation allow the Scarlet Harlot of Babylon to hide His Name and the Name of His Firstborn Son from the people forever? NO!* A faithful Remnant will do what NO one else will do!* Only the wicked would try to stop the RESTORATION OF YHWH'S COVENANT AND HIS INVITATION FOR EVERLASTING LIFE IN BAYIT YHWH - THE FAMILY OF YAHWEH!

The Prophet Yeremyah (Jeremiah 8:8) said that the Word of YHWH would be mistranslated by deceitful scribes, thus hiding YHWH's plan of blessings and salvation from mankind. Discover the historical facts revealing why the original Hebrew manuscripts of the New Covenant are not extant, though clearly evident, and why "christianity" today has strayed from the Torah-based faith of the Messiah and His Aposltes.* We have all been taught wrong!* Pagan Christianity is nothing more than the institutionalization of the ancient solar myths or ancient Baal worship that was invented by ole' Nimrod some 4000 yrs ago. Christianity has rejected YHWH's anointed Cornerstone for a Satanic counterfiet* Iesous/Iesus/H'soos/Jesus 666!

To avoid the curses of continued terrorism, financial meltdown and national destruction, for practicing the blasphemy and pagan abominations of Catholic-Protestant Christianity, everyone is being called to repent (Acts 17:30) and return to the Covenant of Yahweh our Creator.* Help the Remnant restore the "faith once delivered unto the saints " (Jude 1:3; Zeph 3:9) We must do so to achieve the unity and peace designed for mankind.* If we don't see this, the Horses will ride!

As we experience the prophesied "wars and rumors of wars" by the USA's "king of the north" (Daniyl 11:40 - President George W. Bush) who fulfills the symbolic "White Horse" of Revelation's "First Seal", we see that time is indeed short! Don't be sheep to slaughter!* Repent Now and Learn of YHWH's Way and His Law, for His Son - The Prince of Peace is Returning!*

http://www.remnantofyhwh.com/index.htm

The Last Days Remnant can finally be*SEALED in His royal Name and be delivered thru the Great Tribulation & receive eternal life in the Family of Yahweh.(Revelation 14:1)
http://twowitnessministries.com/aboutus.aspx

A Berean

November 28th, 2007, 03:17 PM

:tsk:tsk:tsk Blasphemy and Heresy!!!

Final Trumpet

November 28th, 2007, 03:37 PM

I have been watching alot of Alex jones documentaries and I too feel wary of him. Some of the issues I have is that he seems rather deluded. He claims he is a christian, but yet he says that we will defeat the NWO. Last time I checked, God's Word tells us that the NWO will rule for a short while and will only be defeated when Christ visibly returns and casts the AC and FP into the lake of fire. The NWO is of course the AC kingdom that is fulfilled in a one world gov't, economy and religion.

Then he also has association with Pat Robertson and Charlie Sheen. Which makes another red flag go up. So, while I think he has presented alot of useful information, he needs to be taken warily.

Lexie

November 29th, 2007, 04:46 PM

:tsk:tsk:tsk Blasphemy and Heresy!!!

I agree A Berean,

There are wonderful Messianic ministries, who teach on and celebrate the feasts days, knowing what they mean, ect. but I do not agree with british Israel concepts, their universal family of god teachings, meaning they are god, their thoughts regarding Israel, EC WOF teachings, "The secret", "a course in miracles" which Michael Tsarion's family member had a role in promoting, or the sacred names teachings. Here is their cosmic christ of the golden dawn sites below, you will notice David Ick, Jeff Rense, the Secret, the family of God teachings, ect.

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How Should Christians be Living?

For those Christians who understand their ultimate destination, the question of what our daily lives should consist of is a subject we tend to downplay, ignore or live in denial about. Are we to immerse ourselves in endless Bible studies, online biblical forum discussions, church and/or group gatherings and activities? Are we to have a happy and successful life - or one of conflict (or "travail"), by mentally projecting our Christian lives as such (and therefore attracting conflict through the Law of Attraction)? Just what should the daily lives of today's Christians consist of?

There is no other period in history where the flow of information has been so fast, easy and inexpensive. Yet, what I observe in most Christians is a total disregard for these wonderful gifts of knowledge on how to live happy, successful and healthy lives. While the Bible does give many important guidelines and advice on these topics, much more has been discovered over the last few decades. Most of it is ignored by Christians - because it is not in the Bible.

It has been my observation that as a whole, Christians are not any better off than most non-Christians. Not financially, not emotionally, not physically and not health-wise. Sometimes, not even spiritually. Yet, we expect the rest of the world to listen to our message?

So just how should our 24 hour period be broken up? My suggestion for a daily routine, aside from our occupational work and time spent eating and sleeping, is as follows:

Prayer and/or meditation and scriptural review.

Physical workout and/or exercise of some type.

Spending quality time with one's family.

Daily scanning of various independent internet news sources on matters of health, science, international and national news.

Studying self-improvement courses, books, websites and videos coupled with EFT exercises.

Helping others, either individually or collectively.

Fellowshipping with others, Christian and non-Christian alike.

Enjoying the better things in life. This would include the arts, good books, movies, vacations, traveling, live entertainment, good music and dancing.

http://ernestlmartin.com/index8.htm#statement

EFT
About Gary Craig I am the founder of EFT and your host for this web site. Please know that I am neither a psychologist nor a licensed therapist. Rather, I am a Stanford engineering graduate and an ordained minister and, although we don't pound the table for God here, I do come at this procedure from a decidedly spiritual perspective.My ordained ministry is with the Universal Church of God in Southern California which is non-denominational and embraces all religions. I am an avid student of A Course In Miracles but at no time is any EFT'er asked to follow any specific spiritual teaching.

http://www.emofree.com/
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Another one of their links the universal family of God site, where everyone will be god.

God in some manner existed before the creation; God sent all out of Him; God will bring all back into Himself. When all are back in God then there will be one God, with many new creatures in Him. See God Papers

He (who) will-be
(the Becoming-one) Some aspect of God is changing (His very Name indicates He is BeComing), but His power predestinated and controls all even now.
GP5
Christ after the resurrection. How Jesus went into God; How He is God; How He is the Right Hand of God.
All into Christ--the YHWH GP6
How powerful is God? How many saved? How many will go back into God through Christ?
Jesus Christ The Man Was Not God

http://becomingone.org/gp/gp1a.htm

Described as a teacher's teacher, Michael Tsarion is a Divination Scholar and Sidereal Mythologist. An expert on Stellar Astrology, he is the creator of the Archetypal Stellar Taroscopic© Astrological system of Hermetic Divination, and founder of the online Taroscopic Mystery School. Michael is a descendant of a long line of philosophers, free-thinkers, ascetics and visionaries. His Himalayan born mother was a well-loved, internationally recognized clairvoyant, whose affiliates included Barbara Marx Hubbard, Sir George Trevelyan, Jerry Jampolsky, Elizabeth Kubla-Ross, Shirley MacLean, Edgar Mitchell and a host of other celebrities and academes. She attended J. Krishnamurti’s premier college in India and was later honored as the very first clairvoyant to be a regular on Irish Television. The CEO of Britain’s Independent Broadcasting described her readings as “devastatingly accurate.”

Michael is also the grandson of Tara Singh, the renowned philosopher, author and teacher of the theosophic tome A Course in Miracles. He was the intimate friend of J. Krishnamurti (the World Teacher), Swiss architect Le Corbusier, Keith Critchlow, Alan Chadwick, Eleanor Roosevelt and President Nehru. He was entrusted, by the latter, with India’s 5-year plan of restoration after British withdrawal. Tara Singh was also played a key role in the Rev. Paul Solomon’s Fellowship of Inner Light, one of the first true American mystery schools. He now heads the Foundation for Life Action in Los Angeles.

http://www.psitalk.com/tsarion.html

joe ross

November 29th, 2007, 10:04 PM

Lexie

December 9th, 2007, 08:01 PM

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Have you heard of the sacred names teachings? They claim they are bringing back the pure Hebrew name of God. :doh

The New Covenant
Paleo Signature Edition

"and you have not denied my name"
Revelation 3:8

Behold what the faithful remnant has been waiting for! The Last Day's restoration of the New Covenant writings-Brit Chadashah in the foundation and spirit of the Torah, just as recounted by the Hebrew-speaking Jewish Apostles and disciples of Yahweh's Anointed- Yahsha the Meshiakh of Israel and Savior of the World!

The Breach has finally been healed! With the Name of the Savior restored, Salvation is once again offered to mankind during the First Seal of Judgment! No other Name contains salvation!

"Neither is there salvation in any other, for there in NO other Name
under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
- Acts 4:12 NO MORE KJV CONFUSION & MISTRANSLATION!!

B E H O L D...

Click Here to Sample of Matthew Chapter 1

See authentic Paleo Hebrew Script used by the Prophets!!

The ONLY version containing the Savior's true Name!

"This puts the Authorized King James Version of 1611 to SHAME!"

Introducing a NEW English translation that sets an unprecedented STANDARD!

Finally, a Torah-based translation that reflects the true teachings and message of the Hebrew Meshiakh of 2,000 years ago. Accepting the fact that the Jewish Apostles spoke Hebrew – NOT Greek, this version restores original Hebrew thought in a foundation of Torah. Surprisingly, the earliest Greek versions are very dependable to the author's Torah teachings of Meshiakh. This is the English translation the remnant has been waiting for!

MISTRANSLATIONS FLOOD THE WORLD!

Since the death of the Jewish Apostles, the world has groped in the darkness of pagan superstition and corrupt traditions of Rome. With carefully crafted manipulation and mistranslation of the Apostle’s writings by the Early Church Fathers, the same old pagan idolatry and sun worship of the ancient world evolved into the a more palatable form – “Christianity”. Today, the religious beliefs and practices of Christians have more in common with ancient Babylon and Greece than with the Torah-based Faith of Israel’s Messiah – the Savior of the world. This has been due to the blatant paganization of the Apostolic writings. Scholars are unamimous that blatant forgeries and mistranslations have been made down through history. Then the Protestant Reformation proved itself useless in reviving the Messianic Faith of the Law and Prophets – even making matters worse by spreading Satan’s lie that the Ten Commandments had been “done away with” – a Church doctrine which contradicts the Savior’s own words in Matthew 5:17. With this false teaching of “grace”, Protestantism simply reinforced the anti-semitic position of Rome, and then, with the advent of the printing press, caused the greatest proliferation of mistranslated english versions the world had ever known.
ORIGINAL AUTHENTIC HEBREW

Archeological discoveries continue to confirm the original paleo-Hebrew script. It is the handwriting of heaven! “Aramaic” Hebrew script was invented by the apostate Jews during the Babylonian Exile over 2,500 years ago. But this “modern” script cannot be read by Abraham, Mosheh, nor the Prophets! To witness actual pre-Babylonian Exile "Paleo" Hebrew script as used by the Patriarchs and Prophets of YHWH, click here to see archeological evidence. Now, the most controversial writings of all times have finally been translated accurately to reflect the original Hebrew thought of its original Israelite disciples and authors. These Apostles were eye-witnesses of the miracles of mercy, the Torah-based teachings and the powerful resurrection of Israel’s Anointed Meshiakh - the Savior of the world. Most importantly, this large 300-page version of The New Covenant is the first translation to contain the RESTORED and AUTHENTIC "paleo-Hebrew" Name of the author of Salvation, the Intelligent Designer and Creator of heaven and earth – Almighty "Yahweh" and His firstborn Son and Judge over mankind – "Yahsha h’Meshiakh".

The false prophets of both Judaism and Christianity (including King James I) success-fully REMOVED the Hebrew Name of the Savior from the pages of Scripture long ago, but Two Witness Ministries has fulfilled the prophecy allowing the Remnant to once again call upon His Name in one accord! (Zephanyah 3:9) America and the world cannot receive salvation from the Four Horses until they call upon the heaven-sent royal Hebrew Name of the Savior!! Only Two Witness Ministries breaks the ignorance and the deception foisted upon the world by the Church of Babylon! Be sure to see the Sample Page of Matthew 1.

The following sample of Genesis 1:1 (E-Source Text) is written in the Jewish "Aramaic" script...

Yet, Abraham, Mosheh, nor King Solomon CANNOT READ THIS!! It didn't exist in their day!

That's why mankind must learn the original PALEO Hebrew Name of the Savior!

The Last Days Remnant can finally be SEALED in His royal Name

and be delivered thru the Great Tribulation & receive eternal life in the Family of Yahweh.(Revelation 14:1)

"And I looked, and behold, the Lamb standing on Mt.Zeyon, and with Him 144,000

having His Name (Yahsha) and His Abba's Name (Yahweh) written in their foreheads..."

The Name of the Savior is Hebrew word #3091 (Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible)

YAHSHA

meaning: "Yahweh's Salvation"

(conjunction of the two words: Heb.#3068 and #3467)

All Jews, Gentiles and Christians need this version NOW! Here’s what you will discover…

Removed -All names of gods & goddesses (ie. the common blasphemy found in the King James Version.)
Removed -All Gnostic additions and mistranslations. (ie. religious cannibalism/Communion - Click Here!)
Restored -Original Paleo-Hebrew Names of the Creator: Yahweh, and firstborn Son: Yahsha the Meshiakh
Restored -A correct translation of Romans 13 – true government in a Messianic-Nazarene congregation
Restored -the “Tallit” (the ordained "Wedding Garment") worn by Meshiakh and His Apostles while in ministry
Restored -the proper translations regarding the Torah Law of Righteousness (mistranslated in the KJV)
Restored -the Apostolic Prohibition against unclean foods and blood from the diet as well as ritual
Restored -emphasis on the Meshiakh’s fulfillment and magnification of the Torah Law (Matt.5:17) & more!

http://twowitnessministries.com/nc.aspx

RefinedbyFire

December 10th, 2007, 05:27 PM

:tsk:tsk:tsk Blasphemy and Heresy!!! If those two words don't jolt people, I don't know what will. Those are both scary words...

Lexie

December 13th, 2007, 11:24 AM

How come people listen to the british Israel remnant church teachings of Shepherds chapel? they try and replace the tribes with themselves,claiming the Euros are Israel? Europeans came from Japheth not Seth, they have been here as long as Japheth walked the earth . How can the scriptures below be true, if this group called remnant church are Israel?

Gen 10:5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Isa 60:5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.

Isa 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

Lam 2:9 Her gates are sunk into the ground; he hath destroyed and broken her bars: her king and her princes [are] among the Gentiles: the law [is] no [more]; her prophets also find no vision from the LORD.

Eze 4:13 And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.

Mic 5:8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

Mal 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

The remenant churches article by Gary Larrabee 10 LOST TRIBES have been found AND WE KNOW WHEN YOU WILL BE REUNITED, European men descend from 10 forefathers :ohno
http://www.vinesbranch.com/view/?pageID=2240

International Branch of the Lion of Judah You are a child of God regardless of what you may call yourself Moslem, Hindu, Christian, Jew, New Age, or something else. The International Branch of the Lion of Judah is a name that includes all who believe. Don’t let this be taken in any way that will divide or put any barriers between us. Now is the time we must come together to defeat the forces of evil. We are all fighting the fight against Globalization and the NWO.

This teacher say's God told him the trib statred in 1984, the seals were opened, they are Jesus the branch, the corporate man child, with a super anointing. The latter rain/british israel teachers believe the wealth of the world is theirs.This is why I find latter rain, replacement theology teaching to be dangerous, Barbara Marx Hubbard has similar teaching, with an earth penetecost.

The following dates are important in understanding how things fit to-gather. I will be referring to the events and sequences of these particular dates.

1. On April 10, 1984, I was told that the Tribulation described in the book of Revelation was beginning.

2. On June 13, 1984, I was told that the four angels were being placed at the four corners of the earth. This seems to be the beginning point of the sealing of those referred to as the 144,000.

3. On April 10, 1987, I was told that the vials were being poured forth.

I know that you are wondering how this could be, the tribulation is only seven years and it has been more that twice that length of time and we are still here.

The Breaking of the Seals

I was told on April 10, 1984 the first seal was released. Think of this as a very slow leak in your car tire. The air comes out ever so slowly, you are able to drive quite normally for a long period. But the air is slowly coming out just the same, and it will eventually become totally flat and you will no longer be able to drive.

The man on the white horse described in Revelation 6: 1,2, is a picture of a powerful body of believers in Jesus Christ. This is not the anti-christ, this is that perfect body of Christ, all in one mind and accord, all in total submission to the head.

There is a “corporate anointing” that is available to the body of Christ when we come into unity and is spoken of in the Old Testament as a single person although it is actually speaking of the body of Christ as a single person. Jesus said we were the Branches. The Branch of Isaiah 11:1-5 is the man-child the corporate body or corporate Branch of Jesus Christ the Vine. This will include Hindu Believers, Moslem Believers, Jewish Believers, New Age Believers, and all the rest including Christian Believers. There are no barriers except You Must Believe.

Your question is whether these events have taken place.

According to what the Lord spoke to me the seals began opening on April 10, 1984. the gap of 20 years and 83 days will be up sometime around June 24, 2007. So instead of a 42 month period for these events to occur the time is stretched to about 320 months. If this is true things will happen in a very subtle way.

2nd Seal

3. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

This does not say war it says take peace from the earth. All the security beginning with the blast of the barracks in Lebanon was the beginning of the terrorist activities that became skyjackers and the security spread through out the world.

In the early morning hours of 23 October 1983, a truck loaded with explosives crashed through the security perimeter of the United States Marine Corps Barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. In the explosion that followed, 241 U.S. Military personnel were killed and 80 seriously wounded. These young people, on a mission of peace in a land stricken by violence, were killed as they slept.

The 1980s brought both good and bad to the airline industry. 1984 was the safest year of air travel, with no major crashes in the United States. The following year brought a dramatic turn, over 2,000 people lost their lives. Terrorism also came to the forefront in the 1980s, with two major bombing incidents.

On 9-11-01 with the planes crashing into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center marked the beginning of a global war against terrorism. Life seems to have changed for everyone. Now we are in the middle of a war that is predicted to involve many nations as terrorism is fought. At this time many people fear what will happen even within a few days.

3rd Seal

5. And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

The wealth is being gradually transferred to believers. This may very well be happening at this time. There is much talk about doing away with the Federal reserve and changing to a new Congress controlled Central Bank System. The attach on the twin towers was an attach on the financial center of our nation and there seems to be drastic changes just ahead. This seems to be the reason that the Lord sent me to speak to the Financial Administrator of a Middle east country in 1984 in London. I have written about this experience in an Article called:
“My Story”. *http://www.ourchurch.com/view/?pageID=39116

From Gary Larrabee

http://india.indymedia.org/en/2001/12/404.shtml