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LupusMommyto5
December 8th, 2007, 04:06 PM
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A British charity is giving the traditional nativity scene a political twist this year by dividing it with a wall symbolizing Israel's controversial security barrier. The Amos Trust, a Christian group that works with needy communities around the world, is selling what it calls a nativity set with a difference -- one where "the wise men won't get to the stable." Organizers say the purpose of the sets -- made by Palestinian carpenters with olive wood from Bethlehem -- is to draw attention to the security measures put in place by the Israeli government. The network of walls and fences being built between Israeli and Palestinian Authority-controlled areas of the West Bank runs along the perimeter of Bethlehem, dividing it from nearby Jerusalem. Travel in and out of the town is heavily restricted. The nativity scenes are available in a small version, for around $30, and a larger set -- "perfect for a church" -- goes for around $115. The wall in the larger version is detachable, the Amos Trust says, to allow for the possibility the situation may change in the future. Garth Hewitt, director of the Amos Trust, said Wednesday his group wants to use the wooden sets to make people aware of what is happening, including how the Christian population of Bethlehem is rapidly shrinking. "We're worried about the entire community there," he said. "They're trapped behind the wall there. Critics of Israel frequently blame the Israeli government for the exodus of Christian Arabs from the PA areas. Some scholars attribute the shrinking Christian population to harassment and intimidation by Islamists, however. Two pro-Israel Christian groups criticized the nativity sets. "We are saddened by attempts to make one-sided political capital out of the Bethlehem story," Geoffrey Smith, director of the U.K. branch of Christian Friends of Israel, said Wednesday. "Nobody wants a security barrier but so long as terrorists continue to threaten the lives of Jews and of Arabs in Israel, the people there have to defend themselves in ways that will stop the bombers." He said more than 2,000 lives have been saved by the security barrier in the last five years. Pamela Thomas, national director of the British branch of Bridges for Peace, agreed. "The wall is there to protect people from the suicide bombers that were coming in," she said. Although far from common in Britain, nativity scenes occasionally have proved controversial in recent years. Last year, the Israeli government protested after a Catholic Church in England replaced its usual nativity pageant with a 24-foot-high polystyrene replica of the security barrier. Visitors reportedly were shown protest signs and what the parish priest called "stark photographs" of the situation in Bethlehem. This year, the BBC has come under fire from some religious groups for a modernized version of the nativity story, which the public broadcaster will screen in a live show in Liverpool on December 16. Mary and Joseph will be depicted as asylum seekers swept up during a crackdown on immigration, with the cast singing hits from the Beatles and other famous local pop bands. Despite the complaints, Anglican Bishop of Liverpool James Jones supports the program, saying that it will cause the Christmas story to "echo through the streets of Liverpool."

The article can be found here:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200712/INT20071207c.html

Just Ron
December 8th, 2007, 05:57 PM
Wow. It's simply amazing how man can destroy the works of God and twisting it for his purposes.

I don't think God had this in mind when He sent Jesus to the world as a baby.


I will be so glad when Jesus will be King of all.

Angela
December 8th, 2007, 06:03 PM
There's a charity to not send money to. I thought it was going to be Sabeel or something equally barmy.

SisterNChrist
December 8th, 2007, 06:14 PM
Wow. It's simply amazing how man can destroy the works of God and twisting it for his purposes.

I don't think God had this in mind when He sent Jesus to the world as a baby.


I will be so glad when Jesus will be King of all.

:rolleyes Isn't that THE truth?

1angel4u
December 8th, 2007, 09:38 PM
a modernized version of the nativity story

Oh - "modernized" - is that what ya call it? :doh Blasphemy. :faint

Trevormac
December 10th, 2007, 10:24 PM
The world hates a Jew who defends himself. The wall works, period. If the Palestinians don't want a wall they can abandon terror and join the civilized world.

Trevormac
December 11th, 2007, 01:01 AM
:thinking Palestinians joining the civilized world and abandon terror? :scratch

Nah, I don't see that one happening any time near I mean it's been the same for over 2000 years with those people.....

Walls don't matter when it comes to terrorism, anything I think we have learned can be torn down one way or another, lest we forget 9-1-1.

They don't want to join the civilized world I am sorry they want control and they only want control for a piece of land...we all know why they want that land so badly. We all know what they have planned for Isreal, no walls unfortunately will prevent eventually what is to come, and not just from Palestinia, they are only a small nation among many who will come against her.

But Isreal doesn't need walls, Isreal will be saved as we all know by God. :preach

Isreal Restored to the Land:

"I will set My glory among the nations; all the nations shall see My judgement which I have executed, and My hand which I have laid on them. So the house of Isreal shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day forward." - Ezekiel 39:21-22

"Therefore thus says the LORD God: "Now I will bring back the captives of Jacob, and have mercy on the whole house of Isreal;.." - Ezekiel 39:25

"And I will not hide My face from them anymore; for I shall have poured out My Spirit on the house of Isreal, says the Lord GOD." - Ezekiel 39:29

So I wouldn't worry too much about the Palestinians nor their allies, we can see from the good book of the Lord what's getting ready to go down, and when it does Isreal will be uplifted.

Amen!

Oh I agree that the ultimate solution is the return of Christ, but in a purely worldly view, the wall has reduced terrorism greatly in Israel, before they constructed it, I remember weekly reports of suicide bombers in Israel. As for rocket attacks over the wall, Israel needs a Godly leader who won't bow to international pressure, but who will trust in God and do what is right for Israel. Rocket attacks should receive strong retaliation from the Air Force.

JBG1968
December 11th, 2007, 01:08 AM
The world hates a Jew who defends himself.

am I missing something, from somewhere?? :scratch

Watchingthesky
December 11th, 2007, 07:41 AM
Does these "Christians" read their Bibles (if they even have one)? Simple fact - Arab Israeli citizens have the highest standard of living in the Middle East. They have more rights in Israel than in any islamic nation. Israel actually gives them freedom.

I am getting tired of so-called Christians openly defying God's Word and basically working against the very God they claim to worship and adore.

God bless.

Trevormac
December 11th, 2007, 09:55 PM
am I missing something, from somewhere?? :scratch

Here read this article called Jew Fight Fair, you should find it quite amusing.


http://masada2000.org/FightFair.html