Accountability of Sin

[Emily Ruth]

I was doing a Bible study on walking in darkness vs walking in the light in order to help answer someone's question here locally when I started gathering scriptures that helped me to see something that helps defray some people's concerns about sin.

These scriptures show that sin is an attitude of the heart - not a specific deed. Sin is rebellion against God - rebellion against what one knows is right and yet does what is self centered instead of God centered. Eve knew what was right and chose to do what she wanted to do rather than what she knew was right.

I would like to know anyone elses' thoughts on these scriptures.

John 9:41 Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains

James 4: 17Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins.

Romans 3:20
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.

Romans 5:13
for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.

[Butterflykisses]

This is a great thread. Rebellion is also witch craft.

[Emily Ruth]

This is a great thread. Rebellion is also witch craft.


Absolutely! It is witchcraft, humanism, and all man made religion (which started with Adam and Eve trying to cover their sin with fig leaves - a work instead of payment for the sins)

These scriptures I posted in the OP gave me new insight into the question about children and the feeble minded and the whole issue of what if.

It isn't about the 'act' it is the attitude and knowledge of right from wrong.

[goinghome]

That's what I think is meant by: It's not that we commit sin, but that we ARE sin.

This is also important in understanding what salvation is. It is not about repenting of our sins, but a repentent heart toward SIN (sinful nature, rebelliousness toward God). Repentance is changing one's mind about sin in it's entirety, not saying sorry for lying, cheating and stealing.

I really like this discussion and the scriptures you brought up. Thanks for posting it, can't wait to see others' comments. :hug

[Emily Ruth]

That's what I think is meant by: It's not that we commit sin, but that we ARE sin.

This is also important in understanding what salvation is. It is not about repenting of our sins, but a repentent heart toward SIN (sinful nature, rebelliousness toward God). Repentance is changing one's mind about sin in it's entirety, not saying sorry for lying, cheating and stealing.

I really like this discussion and the scriptures you brought up. Thanks for posting it, can't wait to see others' comments. :hug


Great points. I am not sure that I agree with the first statement (is there a scripture verse for that?)

When we were enemies of God we were in rebellion against Him - sinners in need of a savior.

But a child who does not know right from wrong (an infant) is not sin.
It is a tiny little life created by God and since it is not in knowledge of right and wrong - it is not sin (in rebellion)

Do you see what I mean? That is why - at face value - I don't see that statement being true for all mankind.

[Butterflykisses]

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[His Bride]

Amen! Sinning doesn't make us sinful people. Sinful people commit sin. Sin is the inherited disease from Adam. It is in our nature. That is why babies are considered sinners. They inherited the nature. You don't need to teach a toddler to sin. He will hit you to get what he wants! As much as we love our babies they are God's enemies until they accept the atonement of Jesus for their sin. If they die without reaching the age of reason God does not hold them accountable.

[Anddra]

Every one that practises sin practises also lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%203:4;&version=16;) (Darby)

J.N.Darby has a useful note to the phrase 'sin is lawlessness'...
To translate this 'sin is the transgression of the law,' as in [the] A.V. is wrong, and gives a false definition of sin, for sin was in the world, and death as a consequence, before the giving of the law: see Romans 5:13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%205:13&version=16); Romans 7:13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%207:13;&version=16;). The Greek reads 'sin is lawlessness,' that is, the absence of the principle of law (not the law), or, in other words, of the contriol of god over the soul. I ought to have no will of my own, but be in obedience. The statement is reciprocal, and may be read 'lawlessness is sin.'

[blitzkreig]

The quotes actually highlights the interesting rhetorical question ... if you are preaching to someone who you believe (are certain actually) will NEVER convert ... are you potentially doing them more harm than good?


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[HSmomto4]

Wow this thread goes hand in hand with some of the others in apologetics.