View Full Version : Rick Warren: 'I always own up to mistakes'
I Believe!!!
December 11th, 2007, 11:46 AM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59110
*snip*
"Without a doubt," he told WND. "I make mistakes all the time."
But he added, "I always own up to mistakes that I actually do. I just won't own up to mistakes that weren't really a mistake."
Many false claims, he contended, have taken on a life of their own on Internet blogs, such as assertions he was mentored by positive-thinking pastor Robert Schuller and influenced by Norman Vincent Peale. The claims often are tied to criticism he's preaching a watered-down, pop-psychology gospel of self-esteem and "easy believism."
"I've only met Robert Schuller twice, I believe. I've never had a one-on-one conversation with him. Not once. So how do I even know him?" Warren said, adding he's never even read a book by Peale.
Sing4Him
December 11th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Take a look:
https://www.discernmentresource.com/uploads/Robert_Schuller.pdf
A Berean
December 11th, 2007, 12:35 PM
Take a look:
https://www.discernmentresource.com/uploads/Robert_Schuller.pdf
Yes- I knew this. So Rick Warren is a liar :twitch.
Sing4Him
December 11th, 2007, 12:36 PM
Interesting.. look at what I found here!
who is telling the truth????
Destructive Heresies: From Schuller to Warren to The Evangelical Church
This false prophet, Robert Schuller, has also boasted:
What has been accomplished already through this church is phenomenal because of the dedicated members and friends we have. I see the results today of the Institute for Successful Church Leadership which we dared to launch 35 years ago and it is still going strong. Here ministers are inspired to believe in their dreams and to present the good news of the gospel in positive terms. And some of those students are well-known. Bill Hybels now pastors the largest church, I think, in the United States, the Willow Creek Community Church. Bill has often said that there probably would not be a Willow Creek Church if he hadn’t been able to come to our pastor’s institute here. I’m so proud of him.
And there’s Rick Warren, a pastor who today is phenomenal. He came to our institute time after time. And in "Christianity Today," his wife was quoted as saying, "When we came to that institute, we were blown away." How God has blessed him. And today Rick Warren is blessing millions of people.
(http://www.hourofpower.org/booklets/bookletdetail.cfm?ArticleID=2570, emphasis added)
http://www.apprising.org/archives/2005/10/a_rotten_root_b.html
Someone is not telling the truth here!:scratch
A Berean
December 11th, 2007, 12:40 PM
:tsk Rick Warren is a liar.
I Believe!!!
December 11th, 2007, 12:59 PM
Directly from Schuller's own words....
http://www.hourofpower.org/booklets/bookletdetail.cfm?ArticleID=2570
*snip*
And there’s Rick Warren, a pastor who today is phenomenal. He came to our institute time after time. And in "Christianity Today," his wife was quoted as saying, "When we came to that institute, we were blown away."
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/04/smith-deceived_on_purpose-5.htm
From Warren Smith's book, Deceived on Purpose:
I describe Bernie Siegel at length because I was about to discover that Rick Warren suddenly and inexplicably made reference to Bernie Siegel in Chapter Three of The Purpose-Driven Life. He used Siegel’s name in conjunction with remarks he was making about people who have “hope” and a “deep sense of life purpose.” The reference follows Rick Warren’s strange characterization of Isaiah and Job as two men who exemplified life “without purpose” and life “without God.”
The reader is given no explanation as to who Bernie Siegel is and, therefore, has no idea that Rick Warren was using the remark of a New Age leader to reference the importance of having “hope” and “purpose” in their life. Particularly for someone like myself, who came out of the New Age, it was extremely bizarre to see Rick Warren’s remarks linking hope with the New Age leader Bernie Siegel rather than with Isaiah and Job. His skewed comments were very misleading. Rick Warren wrote:
"Without God, life has no purpose, and without purpose, life has no meaning. Without meaning, life has no significance or hope. In the Bible, many different people expressed this hopelessness. Isaiah complained, “I have labored to no purpose; I have spent my strength in vain and for nothing.” Job said, 'My life drags by—day after hopeless day” and “I give up; I am tired of living. Leave me alone. My life makes no sense.' The greatest tragedy is not death, but life without purpose.
"Hope is as essential to your life as air and water. You need hope to cope. Dr. Bernie Siegel found he could predict which of his cancer patients would go into remission by asking, “Do you want to live to be one hundred?” Those with a deep sense of life purpose answered yes and were the ones most likely to survive. Hope comes from having a purpose."13
So, I looked this up myself (I happen to have the book) and sure enough Bernie Siegel is mentioned.
Here's what I could find on Siegel in his own words....
http://www.wholistichealingresearch.com/passages.html
God reminded me that a perfect world is not creation. It is a magic trick and so we are all here to live and learn and hopefully move up through the grades as we acquire wisdom and then when our bodies cease to exist we can pass on through our consciousness, which never ceases to exist, what we have learned and experienced and hopefully enhance life rather than detract from it.
And here's from the back cover of his book: Meditations for Enhancing Your Immune System
On this powerful CD, Dr. Bernie Siegel guides you through two individual meditations, each a combination of guided imagery and auto-hypnosis. These inspiring inner journeys are designed to assist you in dealing with negative thought, past hurts, stress, grief, and other conditions that can contribute to your lack of well-being. Bernie's calm, resonant voice gently helps you experience your own unique qualities, as well as your inner and outer beauty.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1561705349/ref=sib_dp_srch_pop?v=search-inside&keywords=&go.x=14&go.y=16&go=Go%21
Sounds like a bunch of new age gobblygook to me! I still thing that Rick Warren is very questionable.
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