karlm
May 17th, 2007, 10:15 PM
This was posted on another board, it doesn't seem correct to me
Please understand that ALL born again Christian's do not believe in returning Israeli's back to Israel, therefore encourging the rapture to occur, (AKA dispensationalism). This eschatological view is flawed and completely unscriptural. Those whom believe in this practice need to open there Bibles and read scripture and stop hanging on every word their pastor preaches. Dispensationalism should be defined as Zionist politics. True Torah Jews (Orthodox Jews) don't even believe in the state of Israel, and are begging for the Zionist to return it to the Palestinians! Of course you won't see that in the media!
BlessedinHim
May 18th, 2007, 04:21 AM
:shocked What is your source on this?
It is scriptural that they will inhabit their land. That land belongs to them, and if they are trying to get the zionists to give it to the palestinians, it will not happen. They arent even occupying half the land that was promised to them in the OT. There is all kinds of scriputure supporting Israeli occupation of their land in these last days.
Im bad, just noticed the first sentence in your post. LOL, well, I would respond just as I just responded to it and add the :scripture scriptures to support what I was saying. Then, they are not disagreeing with you, but with God.:ohno
God is always right!!!:nod
LaMontre
May 18th, 2007, 02:18 PM
Psalms 37:9,18,22,28,29,34
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth....
18 The Lord knoweth the ways of the upright: and their inheritance shall be forever....
22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off....
28 For the Lord loveth judgement, and forsaketh not his saints, they are preserved forever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein forever....
34 Wait on the Lord, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land, when the wicked are cut off thou shalt see it.
Isa 2:2-4
2 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow to it.
3 Many people shall come and say, "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; he will teach us His ways, and we shall walk in His paths." For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4 He shall judge between the nations, and rebuke many people; they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.
Daniel 2:44
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Dan 7:13-14,18,27
13 "I was watching in the night visions, and behold, One like the Son of Man, coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His kingdom the one which shall not be destroyed.
18 'But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom forever, even forever and ever.'
27 Then the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.'
Of course those are millennial. Parts of Eze 37 are believed to be where we are today.
Eze 37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
Eze 37:2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
Eze 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
Eze 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
Eze 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 37:7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
Eze 37:8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
Eze 37:10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
Eze 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
I think thats where we are today.
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