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Galoutofdixie
December 30th, 2007, 03:33 PM
I've seen this video before, but couldn't find it to post it here, until today, when another RR poster posted it in another thread.

It's a small example of the spiritual warfare that is happening in Israel right now, and also a good example of why Jewish believers in Yeshua might fear being exposed.

http://rr-bb.com/showpost.php?p=376614&postcount=1

watchman
December 30th, 2007, 04:43 PM
If Israel were to believe that a world following the 7 laws would no longer be a threat to them, then you better believe it would not be too difficult for them to get behind that movement.

One day "something" is going to be presented by "someone" that will be accepted.

If we are in the last moments of this world as we know it, it has to be almost ready to assemble.

I do not expect a "New, Ready to Go, Right out of the Box" manifestation, but the same ol' same ol' packaged and presented so the world will willingly take it.

And as it goes, it would have to satisfy almost all, if not only the *ahemmm* "three monotheistic" religions...

You have my attention.

Lexie
December 30th, 2007, 05:55 PM
I've seen this video before, but couldn't find it to post it here, until today, when another RR poster posted it in another thread.

It's a small example of the spiritual warfare that is happening in Israel right now, and also a good example of why Jewish believers in Yeshua might fear being exposed.

http://rr-bb.com/showpost.php?p=376614&postcount=1

These are Jewish Orthodox in the video, which is pretty close to Islam, who just killed a christian bookstore owner in Gaza. In one of their other videos they are calling the Jew's demons, how come?

Paul, Crispis, Joseph, Nicodemus, maybe even Nathanel were religious Orthodox Pharisees. Does anyone expect anything different from the Jew's, at this point in time? It's pretty sad the Orthodox Jew's, tell the gentile church, in the video, it was the church, who killed them, in the holocaust, when it was religious people, who killed and stole from them, while they called them the Chrsit killers, not the real church. It will happen again soon, God has a plan, he will use Jew's, who he will call, with real signs and wonders, who Jesus has reserved to love and serve Jew's, the gentile religion is going to persecute Jew's again, it is already starting, people are trying to turn others away from Israel. God said the Gentile kingdonms of the world, get one last shot at his people, this will turn into rightousness for Israel.

Jer 31:3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, [saying], Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.

Isa 48:1**Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the LORD, and make mention of the God of Israel, [but] not in truth, nor in righteousness.
Isa 48:2**For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts [is] his name.
Isa 48:3**I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did [them] suddenly, and they came to pass.
Isa 48:4**Because I knew that thou [art] obstinate, and thy neck [is] an iron sinew, and thy brow brass;
Isa 48:5*I have even from the beginning declared [it] to thee; before it came to pass I shewed [it] thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.
Isa 48:6*Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare [it]? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them.
Isa 48:7*They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them.
Isa 48:8**Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time [that] thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.
Isa 48:9**For my name's sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off.
Isa 48:10**Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
Isa 48:11**For mine own sake, [even] for mine own sake, will I do [it]: for how should [my name] be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
Isa 48:12**Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I [am] he; I [am] the first, I also [am] the last.


Eze 36:19**And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
Eze 36:20**And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These [are] the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
Eze 36:21**But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
Eze 36:22**Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not [this] for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
Eze 36:23**And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I [am] the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
Eze 36:24**For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
Eze 36:25*Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26**A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27**And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them].
Eze 36:28**And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
Eze 36:29**I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
Eze 36:30*And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.
Eze 36:31**Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that [were] not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
Eze 36:32**Not for your sakes do I [this], saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

jayna
December 30th, 2007, 07:25 PM
I don't know a whole lot about nothing, but after reading this entire thread I feel like I'm reading a movie script. You sure this is the world we're currently living in?!!!!! :fear
Got my attention too!!

watchman
December 30th, 2007, 09:05 PM
...These are Jewish Orthodox in the video, which is pretty close to Islam, who just killed a christian bookstore owner in Gaza. In one of their other videos they are calling the Jew's demons, how come?
...

Lexie, I wanted to clarify that you are refering to the Christian bookstore owner in Gaza, who was killed by Arabs.

Your sentance structure could be misunderstood that the Orthodox Jewish people in the video committed the murder.

For the record.

HeIsEnough
December 31st, 2007, 09:08 AM
Maybe these are the same verses that scare Mr. Cohen

People have advocated this very thing on this very board. Confessing Christ is fraught with peril in many parts of this world. Orthodox Judaism was the first to oppose Christ, and it still does.

ATYCLB
December 31st, 2007, 08:26 PM
this is very interesting and something I will be following!
praying for our RR friend, Cohen :pray
never know, this man may be one of the future 144,000

Cohen was married and had children. :)

The 144,000 are virgins.

Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Believer in miracles
January 3rd, 2008, 12:03 PM
Rabbi wants Olmert and other gov't leaders executed

http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/106217.html

A right-wing Israeli rabbi drew censure after calling for Ehud Olmert and other government leaders to be executed.

Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpe, a leading Chabad rabbi in Israel, was shown on television Wednesday addressing a demonstration against the Olmert government's peace moves with the Palestinian Authority.

"The terrible traitor, Ehud Olmert, who gives these Nazis weapons, who gives money, who frees their murderous terrorists, this man, like Ariel Sharon, collaborates with the Nazis," Wolpe said in his speech.

He added that the prime minister, Vice Premier Haim Ramon, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Defense Minister Ehud Barak would be "hung from the gallows" were Israel run properly.

Israeli opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu lambasted the remarks, which apparently were heard without protest by several religious lawmakers who attended the rally.

Ramon in a statement said Wolpe's behavior recalled the incitement that led to the 1995 assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

Yoel Hasson, a lawmaker with Olmert's Kadima party, said he would ask Israel's attorney general to take legal steps against Wolpe.

****The Chabad rabbis are the ones associated with the Noahides.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom_Dov_Wolpo

Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpo, also Sholom Ber Wolpe[1], (born 1948) is a messianic Chabad-Lubavitch rabbi, religious author and political activist in Israel. He has written more than forty books in Hebrew, some of which deal with the position of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, Lubavitcher Rebbe, as the Jewish messiah. He help set up the Chabad Yeshiva in Kiryat Gat. He has become associated in recent years with right-wing political causes, and has set up a campaign group - SOS Israel - an organisation that runs press and postering campaigns for shleimus ha'aretz.

Believer in miracles
January 6th, 2008, 10:39 AM
This could be significant!

This is a news article from today Jan.6/07

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124815

(IsraelNN.com) Two Jerusalem organizations have sent a letter to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, reminding him that discussions with US President Bush or PA Chairman Abbas regarding a possible division of Jerusalem are in violation of Israeli law.

A prominent lawyer for the Victims of Arab Terror (VAT) and Twenty-Four Shifts organizations penned the letter, warning Olmert that if he does not announce an end to all talks over the future of Jerusalem, he will be considered in violation of the law.

In his letter, Attorney Baruch Ben-Yosef makes the point that Clauses 5 and 6 of one of Israel's cardinal laws - Basic Law: Jerusalem, Capital of Israel - mean that Jerusalem's status as the united and sole capital of Israel may not be compromised.

The Warning to Olmert

"According to frequently-published statements by you and some of the ministers in your government," the letter to Olmert states, "you intend to negotiate with Israel's enemies - including Mr. Abu Mazen, the Chairman of the Palestinian Authority - regarding the re-division of Jerusalem and the ceding of parts of the city - in violation of Clauses 5 and 6 of this law."

"The very mention of dividing the city and giving up parts of it, while the Basic Law on Jerusalem is still in effect and/or Clauses 5-6 have not been nullified, is a violation of the Basic Law. If you wish to hold negotiations with a foreign element, and especially with an enemy of Israel such as Abu Mazen, then you must act in accordance with the law's Clause 7 - i.e., nullifying and/or changing [Clauses 5 and 6] via a majority vote in the Knesset."

Attorney Ben-Yosef explains why his warning is timely: "Given that you and/or ministers in your government are liable to wage such negotiations during and after the visit of US President Bush, you are hereby required to declare immediately that you will observe the Basic Law and that you will not wage any negotiations over the future of Jerusalem while the above law and/or its clauses are still in effect."

"If by next Sunday, the 28th of Tevet 5768 (January 6), I do not receive this declaration by return email, my clients will act immediately to obtain a court order preventing you from waging such negotiations."
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WOW! Interesting!...reminds me of the Jerusalem Covenant made in 1992...I once did a big study as to why I thought this Covenant could be THE Covenant of Daniel 9:27

Anddra
January 6th, 2008, 10:48 AM
Definitely something to keep an eye on