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seekingtruth1
January 6th, 2008, 01:00 PM
It wouldnt suprise me if NWO folsk are behind this Sanhedrin group. I have read where people who were govt contractors have claimed to have seen guillotines stored in this country. But it was online and not via some news org. so i take it with a grain of salt. By inlight of Rev. it doesnt suprise me.
i think our govt is all about the NWO way of doing things....they dont like teh "rule of the jungle" where non elites have freedom of speech and freedom to live out their lives as they see fit.
HAve you seen this?

Scroll down to see article by Jerry Golden...it blew me a way.....
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewcommentary.php?storyid=156



There are no sites I posted where the information can't be found elsewhere, I just clicked on a site that had the speech....the first I came to....wrong choice I guess.

Here is another site for the NWO speech. I know he gave it...I watched the speech. It was the first time I ever heard NWO. It is a well known speech given before Congress on Sept. 11, 1990

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Toward_a_New_World_Order

Here is another site.........the Noahide site itself which talks about the legislation

http://www.noahide.org/article.asp?Level=458&Parent=88

There are numerous sites for both of the above. I hope the information will be considered.... which is factual.... rather than a bad choice of sources in the initial post.


I am not in any way suggesting anything against the Jews or Israel just stating facts in the news.

I was just left to wonder why the reestablished Sanhedrin are setting up a council with the Noahides....Schneerson's group...and why the Bushes are involved with this group as well.......when right on their site it says from Sanhedrin Tract 57a posted, to not follow these laws, the punishment is beheading...no one ever talks about the punishment when talking about the moral laws. I am not making this up...unless the news sources are wrong re: the Sanhedrin article or the Noahide site is posting wrong information about themselves.

The Sanhedrin were around in Jesus time too and we now what happened to Him and why!

http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=sanhedrin&version1=31&searchtype=all

This is all very strange in my opinion....i.e....they are reformed today and the enemy today if you look into this are those who worship idols..Jesus falls in this category.... as to them those that worship him are not worshipping the one true God.

Just strange the punishment lines up with Rev. 20:4 re: witness for Jesus and the Word of God.

Galoutofdixie
January 6th, 2008, 01:06 PM
:thinking Hmmm, not wanting to derail the thread, but it's sure interesting on how the "Vatican" is mentioned in all of these New's articles and agreements. Just lately been reading of the Vatican and how it's getting chummy with Iran, and saying how many warnings the Vatican is issuing or will issue to Pres. Bush if he should attack Iran. :thinking

Okay, back to topic. :hat

seekingtruth1
January 6th, 2008, 02:58 PM
:thinking Hmmm, not wanting to derail the thread, but it's sure interesting on how the "Vatican" is mentioned in all of these New's articles and agreements. Just lately been reading of the Vatican and how it's getting chummy with Iran, and saying how many warnings the Vatican is issuing or will issue to Pres. Bush if he should attack Iran. :thinking

Okay, back to topic. :hat


Well the pope recently said Muslims and Jews were okay but The protestant were teh only ones going to hell!

Believer in miracles
January 7th, 2008, 06:55 AM
Sanhedrin prepare a scroll to be given to Bush during visit

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124831


(IsraelNN.com) A historic document is planned to be submitted to visiting US President George Bush upon his arrival this week, calling upon him to choose to be remembered like Cyrus, and not like Nebuchadnezzar.

The document, grandly transcribed on parchment and furled into a scroll, is addressed to the the "Leader of the West." It reminds President Bush to "declare to the world" that he will honor G-d's word and act "towards settling the Jewish People throughout their entire Land."

The document was signed by three figures, including the world-renowned Torah scholar, philosopher, social critic and author Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, once termed by Time magazine as a "once-in-a-millennium scholar." Rabbi Chaim Richman, representing the Temple Mount movements, and Dr. Gadi Eshel of the New Jewish Congress are also signed upon the proclamation.

Rabbi Dov Stein, secretary of the Sanhedrin, which is headed by Rabbi Steinsaltz, met on Monday morning with a public figure and presented him with the scroll, asking that he please submit it by hand to Mr. Bush during their upcoming meeting.

cont.......



Note: Chaim Richman is the rabbi who is affiliated with the Sanhedrin and TMFaithful who said they didn't need the red heifer for the high priest to serve....he could do so impure until they found one.

Believer in miracles
January 13th, 2008, 10:58 AM
Interesting.........

http://www.templeinstitute.org/megillat-bush.htm

Megillat Bush - The Bush Scroll:
The Jewish Nation's Response to President George W. Bush
on the Eve of His Visit to the Holy Land

In the Name of the Lord, Eternal God, To The Honorable Mr. George W. Bush, President of the United States of America, who comes seeking the presence of the Most High God, to Jerusalem, city of God, Divinely chosen site of the Holy Temple, eternal capital of our land, "the joy of the entire earth (Psalms 48:3)," may it be rebuilt and established speedily and in our days, Amen! Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), leader of the west! Upon your arrival in Jerusalem you have the ability to make a declaration, as did Cyrus, King of Persia - whose memory is honored - who in the year 538 BCE returned the exiled nations to their lands and recognized the full right of the Jewish people to reestablish their Holy Temple, the "house of prayer for all nations" (Isaiah 56:7), and called upon them to return to their land, And in the manner of Lord James Balfour of England, who in 1917, called upon the Jews to reestablish a national homeland in the Land of Israel. And thus if you...




Signers of the scroll
Rabbi A Even Yisrael Steinzaltz
The Sanhedrin

Dr. Gadi Eshel
The New Jewish Congress

Rabbi Chaim Richman
The Holy Temple and Temple Mount Movements



Meshech and Tubal were descendants of Noah as the rest of us but most feel they DID NOT settle in the WEST so why the reference to Bush and the west.......?


http://eastonsbibledictionary.com/m/meshech.htm
http://eastonsbibledictionary.com/t/tubal.htm


Interesting if you look at it from this regard.......

The ones making this scroll are all associated wiht the Sanhedrin...Chaim Richman also the TMF who make the Temple instruments

Look what else the Sanhedrin believe....re: Noah

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/90646

And GH Bush and Congress.......

http://www.noahide.org/article.asp?Level=458&Parent=88

And GW Bush....
http://www.noahide.org/article.asp?Level=456&Parent=88


Note too: Rabbi Chaim Richman (one of the signers of the scroll) is the rabbi who is affiliated with the Sanhedrin and TMFaithful who said they didn't need the red heifer for the high priest to serve....he could do so impure until they found one.

StarryEyedLad
January 13th, 2008, 12:11 PM
Believer in miracles,
Thanks for keeping us up on all this!!:thumb

Believer in miracles
January 13th, 2008, 12:12 PM
You are welcome :hug

Believer in miracles
January 13th, 2008, 12:47 PM
I don't know why they do call him this but what came to mind and it was only a thought after doing the Sanhedrin/Noahide thread is the following...


#1 The Sanhedrin and Noahides go back to Noah in their thinking...see above link

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/90646

#2-Noahides are Gentiles only

#3 -They say the 7 universal laws of Noahide date back to God's covenant with Noah in Genesis

#4 -It was posted above Meshech and Tubal in Genesis are descendants of Noah (as are we all)

So....... it came to mind that in Sanhedrin/Noahide thinking could they simply call him that because in their way of thinking he is the chief prince of the Gentiles (Noahides) from the West. (Those who follow the 7 universal laws of Noah are called Righteous Gentiles, thus, perhaps reference to "the esteemed" Definition: http://dictionary.die.net/esteem )

Twisted I know...but could it be a possibuility??????

You have to think Sanhedrin/Noahide to see the slant

And from the Noahide site Bush did meet with them under the title "Roadmap to Peace based on the 7 universal laws of Noah"

http://www.noahide.org/article.asp?Level=456&Parent=88

And..his father GH Bush and Congress did sign them into legislation on March 26, 1991

http://www.noahide.org/article.asp?Level=458&Parent=88

***So with the above in mind......they may see him as a Righteous Gentile = descendant from Noah (Meshech and Tubal) = Noahide from the West = and he is their chief prince (leader) in the West

Remember the Sanhedrin/Noahide movement is a global movement...they are having their first ever global meeting this year...so it wouldn't seem too unreasonable to refer to "the West" from a global perspective

http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/groups/personalized/FLLHAHF-NOAH-20080626/index.jhtml


Just some thoughts!

Believer in miracles
January 15th, 2008, 08:25 AM
More on the Sanhedrin...........interesting they are restored at such a time as this.........

http://www.aish.com/literacy/concept...urt_System.asp

It is foretold that the restoration of the Sanhedrin will precede the coming of the Messiah. God thus told His prophet, "I will restore your judges as at first, and your counsellors as in the beginning; afterward you will be called the city of righteousness, the faithful city. Zion shall be redeemed with justice, and those who return to her, with righteousness" (Isaiah 1:26-27). This restoration, however, can only take place in such a time as willed by God.

The Messiah will be a king of Israel, and as such, he can only be recognized by a duly ordained Sanhedrin.

There is a tradition that the Sanhedrin will be restored after a partial ingathering of the Jewish exile, before Jerusalem is rebuilt and restored. There is also a tradition that Elijah will present himself before a duly ordained Sanhedrin when he announces the coming of the Messiah. Like all events in the Messianic drama, the restoration of the Sanhedrin can only occur at the time decreed by God.

there
February 19th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Yes I also have ben watching this for a while and can certainly see where it is going scripturally.

In a sense we have these same laws but given by the Apostles

Acts 15:23 - 29

And they wrote [letters] by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren [send] greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:


Act 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, [Ye must] be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no [such] commandment:


Act 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,


Act 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Act 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell [you] the same things by mouth.


Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;


Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.


Note the BOLD bits.

This Noahide Law thing that is now being passed around is ommitting one thing the MOST IMPORTANT THING Christ our Lord.

How many will be sucked in when the world goes pear shaped Hmmmmm

Sounds so close to truth but is opening the pits of hell.

And they seem to be marching faster than anyone of us can imagine for time is very short indeed.

http://www.noahide.org/article.asp?Level=510&Parent=88

Come Lord Yeshua come.

Stay in Truth be not mislead. It is so important that we read His precious Word so we can see deception especially in a time when pastors are being deceived and passing on that deception to their congregations.

May our Lord Yeshua keep you all close and in His Truth