View Full Version : The Che Guevara cult continues
Corey Hart
May 19th, 2007, 04:11 AM
Why do so many people think that
Che Guevara was a great man? I don't get it.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/fontova/fontova64.html
Big Daddy
May 20th, 2007, 03:44 PM
Che Guevara was a self-sacrificing revolutionary who gave up a comfortable bourgeois existence to fight for the impoverished and oppressed, a staunch believer in the cause who rejected the trappings of power to return to the battlefield.
Or he was a violent, cold-blooded killing machine, a sociopathic hooligan who exulted in the death of his enemies, mismanaged the Cuban economy, and won battles by bribing his opponents to surrender in advance.
Like other polarizing political legends, the “real deal” about Che Guevara depends largely on whom you ask, and through what political lens your source views the world.http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcheguevara.htm
Aneriz
June 28th, 2007, 09:04 PM
Ask the Cubans and they will unearth him just so they can carry out justice. To the ones that counts, like the families of the people he murdered, he was an unscrupulous criminal.
eve_anne_gelical
July 1st, 2007, 05:15 PM
But its ultra cool for Hollywood types and anti-establish types to wear his shirts and sing his praises along with Mao and Castro, its so hip to be anti
professor h
July 2nd, 2007, 07:01 PM
The middle class in the US is shrinking due to unscrupulous abuse of capitalist practices by large corporations - the average worker makes $1 for ever $419 that the CEO of his company makes. It's not surprising that many would look towards a socialist model as the gap between the rich and poor grows in this country.
I don't know that I've ever heard anyone in my generation praise Mao, Castro, or Che, really, and if anyone is wearing his t-shirt, I'd say it's more of a fashion statement than a political one as Guevara is probably more known for his face than his politics by youths. The most they probably know is that he was a socialist, and the movie Motorcycle Diaries had a lot to do with that, painting a portrait of a youthful Guevara full of socialist idealism, and downplaying his ruthless tactics in the Cuban revolution. To be fair, Che was a socialist; it was Castro who turned Cuba into a communist dictatorship.
...not an advocation...just an explanation.
Cait
July 3rd, 2007, 06:30 PM
half of a photography museum in manhattan is dedicated to Che. Artists also want to portray him humanistic tones. Just an observation.
professor h
July 7th, 2007, 01:34 PM
If anything, I think it shows a growing discontent w/ capitalist practices in our country. Capitalism is a great idea as long as those who practice it can be counted on to be fair and generous.
But a dollar doesn't go as far as it used to. I don't think anyone who works 40 hours a week should starve, but it's happening. And it happens because executives are making hundreds of millions while paying peanuts to those who break their backs every day. The people at the bottom get squeezed out as their jobs go overseas or across the border so the company can squeeze out another dime...
it's sad..
adc
July 7th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Karl Marx declared: “The first battlefield is the rewriting of history.” It would appear that everyone who is participating in the romantising and glamourising of this Marxist mass murderer, Che Guevara, are not only advertising their ignorance of history, but are helping to reorganize reality and promote the undeserved hero worship of a Communist killer.
While Che Guevara could be 'brave' when he was murdering disarmed civilians, including a 14 year old child, in the La Cabana Fortes, he was was cowardly when captured by the Bolivian Army. Che grovelled and begged for his life before the Bolivians did to him what he had done to so many others.
Commies are not cool. I for one am not interested in decorating myself with the image of a dirty, unwashed Communist tyrant and anti-Christian persecutor of the church.
http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/glamourising_a_mass_murderer.htm
Lostsoul
July 8th, 2007, 03:36 PM
That article makes it sound like no army has ever killed civilians, Che's forces were all poor, angery people, of course they went wild when they thought they can.
Want to compare figures of civilian deaths with US forces? All armies have their darkness.
BamaM14Shooter
July 8th, 2007, 07:57 PM
Want to compare figures of civilian deaths with US forces? All armies have their darkness.
Why don't we compare them? When US forces are proven to have willfully killed or injured civilians, the offenders are court martialed. With Guevara and his forces, war waged against civilians was only business as usual. Comparing US forces to Guevara is a slap in the face to this nation and those serving in its military.
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