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Ryan
January 1st, 2008, 04:46 PM
Can someone explain why in Matthew chapter 8 it says that a centurion came to Jesus, and Jesus spoke to him, but in the Book of Luke chapter 7 it does not state that the centurion spoke to Jesus, it says that the centurion sent friends to Jesus. :scratch

Matthew 8:5-13 “Now when Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to Him, pleading with Him, 6 saying, "Lord, my servant is lying at home paralyzed, dreadfully tormented." 7 And Jesus said to him, "I will come and heal him." 8 The centurion answered and said, "Lord, I am not worthy that You should come under my roof. But only speak a word, and my servant will be healed. 9 "For I also am a man under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to this one, 'Go,' and he goes; and to another, 'Come,' and he comes; and to my servant, 'Do this,' and he does it." 10 When Jesus heard it, He marveled, and said to those who followed, "Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel! 11 "And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 "But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you." And his servant was healed that same hour.”

(NKJV) Luke 7:1-10 “Now when He concluded all His sayings in the hearing of the people, He entered Capernaum. 2 And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear to him, was sick and ready to die. 3 So when he heard about Jesus, he sent elders of the Jews to Him, pleading with Him to come and heal his servant. 4 And when they came to Jesus, they begged Him earnestly, saying that the one for whom He should do this was deserving, 5 "for he loves our nation, and has built us a synagogue." 6 Then Jesus went with them. And when He was already not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to Him, saying to Him, "Lord, do not trouble Yourself, for I am not worthy that You should enter under my roof. 7 "Therefore I did not even think myself worthy to come to You. But say the word, and my servant will be healed. 8 "For I also am a man placed under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to one, 'Go,' and he goes; and to another, 'Come,' and he comes; and to my servant, 'Do this,' and he does it." 9 When Jesus heard these things, He marveled at him, and turned around and said to the crowd that followed Him, "I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel!" 10 And those who were sent, returning to the house, found the servant well who had been sick.”

matheteou
January 1st, 2008, 07:11 PM
Can someone explain why in Matthew chapter 8 it says that a centurion came to Jesus, and Jesus spoke to him, but in the Book of Luke chapter 7 it does not state that the centurion spoke to Jesus, it says that the centurion sent friends to Jesus. :scratch

Matthew 8:5-13 “Now when Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to Him, pleading with Him, 6 saying, "Lord, my servant is lying at home paralyzed, dreadfully tormented." 7 And Jesus said to him, "I will come and heal him." 8 The centurion answered and said, "Lord, I am not worthy that You should come under my roof. But only speak a word, and my servant will be healed. 9 "For I also am a man under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to this one, 'Go,' and he goes; and to another, 'Come,' and he comes; and to my servant, 'Do this,' and he does it." 10 When Jesus heard it, He marveled, and said to those who followed, "Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel! 11 "And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 "But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you." And his servant was healed that same hour.”

(NKJV) Luke 7:1-10 “Now when He concluded all His sayings in the hearing of the people, He entered Capernaum. 2 And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear to him, was sick and ready to die. 3 So when he heard about Jesus, he sent elders of the Jews to Him, pleading with Him to come and heal his servant. 4 And when they came to Jesus, they begged Him earnestly, saying that the one for whom He should do this was deserving, 5 "for he loves our nation, and has built us a synagogue." 6 Then Jesus went with them. And when He was already not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to Him, saying to Him, "Lord, do not trouble Yourself, for I am not worthy that You should enter under my roof. 7 "Therefore I did not even think myself worthy to come to You. But say the word, and my servant will be healed. 8 "For I also am a man placed under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to one, 'Go,' and he goes; and to another, 'Come,' and he comes; and to my servant, 'Do this,' and he does it." 9 When Jesus heard these things, He marveled at him, and turned around and said to the crowd that followed Him, "I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel!" 10 And those who were sent, returning to the house, found the servant well who had been sick.”Do you believe what Christ meant when He told His disciples "he who has seen the Son has seen the Father"? While it often doesn't mean much today, it used to be when we sent someone (an ambassador) in our stead, they represented the sender fully (Abraham's servant). Here is a take on what was happening -(Luke) 7:1-10. After Jesus’ sermon (chap. (http://rr-bb.com/#_ftn1) 6), which was given outside of town, He entered Capernaum, His adopted hometown where He performed many of His messianic signs. A centurion in the Roman army was a commander of a century, a group of 100 soldiers. This centurion in Capernaum, unlike most Roman soldiers, was well liked and respected by the Jewish people in and around Capernaum because he loved them and built them a synagogue (7:4-5). This centurion’s servant . . . was extremely sick and about to die (v. (http://rr-bb.com/#_ftn2) 2). The centurion had faith that Jesus would heal the servant. Perhaps the reason he sent Jewish elders to present his request was that he doubted that Jesus would have heeded a Roman soldier’s request. Matthew 8:5-13 records the same event, but Matthew did not record the sending of messengers. He presented the account as if the centurion were present himself. Matthew was reflecting what the centurion meant when he noted that his messengers do his bidding as if he were there himself (Luke 7:8). The centurion realized that his request was brash and that he really was not worthy to see Jesus (v. 7). Jesus was amazed (ethaumasen; cf. (http://rr-bb.com/#_ftn3) comments on 2:18) at the centurion and said, I have not found such great faith even in Israel. The concept of faith is extremely important throughout chapters 7 and 8. It is vital to believe who Jesus is (i.e. (http://rr-bb.com/#_ftn4), the Messiah) and what He said. The exercise of faith by Gentiles also becomes prominent later in Luke’s book.
chap. (http://rr-bb.com/#_ftnref1)chapter

v. (http://rr-bb.com/#_ftnref2)verse

cf. (http://rr-bb.com/#_ftnref3)confer, compare

i.e. (http://rr-bb.com/#_ftnref4)id est, that is

Walvoord, J. F., Zuck, R. B., & Dallas Theological Seminary. (1983-c1985). The Bible knowledge commentary : An exposition of the scriptures (2:221). Wheaton, IL: Victor Books.

AnotherOldGuy
January 1st, 2008, 07:39 PM
Matthew 8:5-13 records the same event, but Matthew did not record the sending of messengers. He presented the account as if the centurion were present himself. Matthew was reflecting what the centurion meant when he noted that his messengers do his bidding as if he were there himself

Yeah... I don't think so. Matthew was there. Luke got it second, or third, hand. It may be that Luke, or whoever told him, thought the centurion didn't meet Jesus.


(Mat 8:13) Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you." And his servant was healed that same hour.

Jesus replied to the centurion, not his messengers.

Seated
January 3rd, 2008, 12:49 PM
There is the possibility that once the Jews relayed the Centurion's message, Jesus was so impressed with his faith that He insisted on meeting him. If this is true, then both accounts are accurate, except Matthew left out the first message from the Centurion and only recorded the face-to-face meeting.

Jany
January 4th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Luke says that He went toward the centurion's house. When He had nearly arrived, the centurion sent world that knew Jesus could simply give the command and the servant would be healed. This was said because the centurion he was unworthy tohave Jesus come to "under his roof". Jesus marveled at such a disply of faith.


A centurion was a rank between that of an officer and a noncommissioned officer; kinda like a sergeant-major. In Matthew it doesn't actually say the centurion himself - could have been one of his messengers; one of his non-commissioned officers <><