Birth Leave is sought for school girls

[InHisSteps]

Birth leave sought for girls (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_7899096)

Pregnant students in a Denver high school are asking for at least four weeks of maternity leave so they can heal, bond with their newborns and not be penalized with unexcused absences.

:doh:scratch

I strongly disagree with the message of tacit approval for teenage pregnancy being sent here. If you're adult enough to enter into scenarios that will result in pregnancy while in school then all the consequences thereof should apply. If that includes having to repeat a grade due to absence, so be it. Good grief. I'm so done being PC already! "end rant"

Now back to your regulary scheduled programming:tsk

[TravisandJill]

I think it is a good idea, but I think the girl should have to MAKE UP the 4 weeks of missed school in summerschool or afterschool program.

So a young girl makes a mistake and gets pregnant, do you actually it is healthy for the mother or baby to not let her miss 4 weeks to heal and bond with the baby?

Would it be christianlike to keep on shaming her for her mistake? Hey at least she didnt abort the child, ever think of that? :tsk

I say 4 weeks is the minimum for any mother period...regardless of age. Its the least they could do to ensure the mother-child relationship gets off to the right start. Sheesh!

[InHisSteps]

I think it is a good idea, but I think the girl should have to MAKE UP the 4 weeks of missed school in summerschool or afterschool program.

So a young girl makes a mistake and gets pregnant, do you actually it is healthy for the mother or baby to not let her miss 4 weeks to heal and bond with the baby?

Would it be christianlike to keep on shaming her for her mistake? Hey at least she didnt abort the child, ever think of that? :tsk
A little shame is a good thing, it keeps you from repeating poor choices. The shameless flaunting of teenage pregnancy is also deplorable. I believe one should have to deal with the consequences of poor choices, instead expecting the environment to bend to accomadate those poor choices, for the comfort of the select few. Consider the strain on school resources to provide addtion classroom time for the ones who contnue to make these poor choices. That is not prudent. I stand by my initial statement. If you;re going to make a baby, deal with the consequences.

I say 4 weeks is the minimum for any mother period...regardless of age. Its the least they could do to ensure the mother-child relationship gets off to the right start. Sheesh!

They can stay home as long at they feel the need to do so. I don't believe the schools have any responsibility to accomadate their absence.

[BelovedChild]

Here in Australia, some schools ae putting increches for single teenage mothers so that the young girls have the opportunity to keep on with the education so that both of them will have some sort of future. I think it is a good idea as I believe that we should show mercy to these children.

By the way, it takes two to tango. Why should only the girl be penalised for their sin?

[MsFriend]

Birth leave sought for girls (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_7899096)



:doh:scratch

I strongly disagree with the message of tacit approval for teenage pregnancy being sent here. If you're adult enough to enter into scenarios that will result in pregnancy while in school then all the consequences thereof should apply. If that includes having to repeat a grade due to absence, so be it. Good grief. I'm so done being PC already! "end rant"

Now back to your regulary scheduled programming:tsk

:frust This is the type of attitude that makes me wonder about all those who scream about the right to life, but are not willing to really take a good look at the problems that come along with it. I AM NOT ADVOCATING ABORTION!!!! But I think it is sad that on one end people are screaming against abortions, but on the other - NO we are NOT willing to help them either!!! :doh
How many times have we Christians gone to bat against abortion, but failed to see the real people who have to walk in the shoes of the choice??

Just today on the radio this topic was on and again, people want to fight for the right to life while failing to realize that a large number of teens whot get pregnant and seek abortions???:shocked (google for the stats)

And still so many get so upidy and say "they should just have to pay for their choice, too bad, they should not have been doing that anyway should've gotten married...(who reading this has not sinned??) Why continue to make a MISTAKE a loose loose situation:hehee,

"No help to you bad bad teen pregnant girl"

I never hear anyone advocating that the father's should have to drop out of school to care for the baby made too, nope the men get to carry on with their lives without any consequence (i.e. a $17.00 jury duty check I was cashing was mistaken for CHILD SUPPORT :fear - i'm widowed btw)

Only 1/3 of teens who get pregnant will graduate high school...what then state/federal assistance and tax dollars :rules

Mistakes are made, the average teen who becomes pregnant is wanting to have someone to love, generally it's thought to be the babies daddy - til he splits and she's uneducated, stuck on welfare, and stuck raising a child alone...and good Christians say "no no help for you - too bad, what a shame - live with your mistake" :snapit cannot be both ways

Eithr be willing to help - or get out of the way. Leaving 'em off in the ditch is not helping anybody - at least let 'em graduate high school OR be prepared to continue the fight against PLANNED PARENTHOOD - think about it!!

[TravisandJill]

:frust This is the type of attitude that makes me wonder about all those who scream about the right to life, but are not willing to really take a good look at the problems that come along with it. I AM NOT ADVOCATING ABORTION!!!! But I think it is sad that on one end people are screaming against abortions, but on the other - NO we are NOT willing to help them either!!! :doh
How many times have we Christians gone to bat against abortion, but failed to see the real people who have to walk in the shoes of the choice??

Just today on the radio this topic was on and again, people want to fight for the right to life while failing to realize that a large number of teens whot get pregnant and seek abortions???:shocked (google for the stats)

And still so many get so upidy and say "they should just have to pay for their choice, too bad, they should not have been doing that anyway should've gotten married...(who reading this has not sinned??) Why continue to make a MISTAKE a loose loose situation:hehee,

"No help to you bad bad teen pregnant girl"

I never hear anyone advocating that the father's should have to drop out of school to care for the baby made too, nope the men get to carry on with their lives without any consequence (i.e. a $17.00 jury duty check I was cashing was mistaken for CHILD SUPPORT :fear - i'm widowed btw)

Only 1/3 of teens who get pregnant will graduate high school...what then state/federal assistance and tax dollars :rules

Mistakes are made, the average teen who becomes pregnant is wanting to have someone to love, generally it's thought to be the babies daddy - til he splits and she's uneducated, stuck on welfare, and stuck raising a child alone...and good Christians say "no no help for you - too bad, what a shame - live with your mistake" :snapit cannot be both ways

Eithr be willing to help - or get out of the way. Leaving 'em off in the ditch is not helping anybody - at least let 'em graduate high school OR be prepared to continue the fight against PLANNED PARENTHOOD - think about it!!

Wow well said!!

I will go one step further and say that schools must either let the mothers bring the babies with them, and send them to a "daycare" in the school campus (but let the child go to its mother to feed etc...) or have a program for the mother to study at home and have a teacher grade and check her work on a regular basis? Those would be great for the CHILD, to be near its mother.

Heres the deal...when you start condemning a young girl and offer no kindness or compassion then you end up with babies in dumpsters...sad but true. What person would want to wear a scarlet "A" their whole lives?

I am against unmarried sex, but you must show compassion to the "least of these" and keep on trying to win souls to Christ. Besides would you like it if people held your sins constantly over your head?

[manytears]

Wow well said!!

I will go one step further and say that schools must either let the mothers bring the babies with them, and send them to a "daycare" in the school campus (but let the child go to its mother to feed etc...) or have a program for the mother to study at home and have a teacher grade and check her work on a regular basis? Those would be great for the CHILD, to be near its mother.

Heres the deal...when you start condemning a young girl and offer no kindness or compassion then you end up with babies in dumpsters...sad but true. What person would want to wear a scarlet "A" their whole lives?

I am against unmarried sex, but you must show compassion to the "least of these" and keep on trying to win souls to Christ. Besides would you like it if people held your sins constantly over your head?

:thumb also well said

[scrappergirl]

:frust This is the type of attitude that makes me wonder about all those who scream about the right to life, but are not willing to really take a good look at the problems that come along with it. I AM NOT ADVOCATING ABORTION!!!! But I think it is sad that on one end people are screaming against abortions, but on the other - NO we are NOT willing to help them either!!! :doh
How many times have we Christians gone to bat against abortion, but failed to see the real people who have to walk in the shoes of the choice??

Just today on the radio this topic was on and again, people want to fight for the right to life while failing to realize that a large number of teens whot get pregnant and seek abortions???:shocked (google for the stats)

And still so many get so upidy and say "they should just have to pay for their choice, too bad, they should not have been doing that anyway should've gotten married...(who reading this has not sinned??) Why continue to make a MISTAKE a loose loose situation:hehee,

"No help to you bad bad teen pregnant girl"

I never hear anyone advocating that the father's should have to drop out of school to care for the baby made too, nope the men get to carry on with their lives without any consequence (i.e. a $17.00 jury duty check I was cashing was mistaken for CHILD SUPPORT :fear - i'm widowed btw)

Only 1/3 of teens who get pregnant will graduate high school...what then state/federal assistance and tax dollars :rules

Mistakes are made, the average teen who becomes pregnant is wanting to have someone to love, generally it's thought to be the babies daddy - til he splits and she's uneducated, stuck on welfare, and stuck raising a child alone...and good Christians say "no no help for you - too bad, what a shame - live with your mistake" :snapit cannot be both ways

Eithr be willing to help - or get out of the way. Leaving 'em off in the ditch is not helping anybody - at least let 'em graduate high school OR be prepared to continue the fight against PLANNED PARENTHOOD - think about it!!


wow.
thank you for putting that into such clear perspective.
your points are so right.
shame on us for having the attitude that these girls are damned if they do and damned if they don't (have an abortion, keep the baby, etc.).
and who among us has NOT sinned in the area of unmarried sex. i stand guilty as charged. Some are 'lucky' enough not to have had the 'consequences' and resulting decision of such a lifestyle choice. I was not one of them.
thanks for the reminder...my heart needed that.
:candle

[In His Service]

Yes, I agree that we must show compassion toward these girls. However, with all things permissive, we must focus equally on making sure other girls do not look at it as an excuse to get out of school for 4 weeks. There must be some sort of penalty that displays that the irrisponsible behaviour (pre-marital sex) does come with consiquences.

Not too many teens will see that making up 4 weeks during the summer is a punishment. They (like most teens when I was one) will only see the benefits of the "here and now." Granted, the girl will now have to deal with being a mother at an all too young of an age. But I feel that there must also be a heavy penalty for the boy in this situation (lending he is I.D'd as the father) Why should he get to go on with High School as usual while she is turning her life upside down. They BOTH made a choice and they BOTH should endure the consequences together.

I am not saying that he should get out of school either; but instead, for the 4 weeks she is on maternity leave, he should go through some form of workforce training that exposes him to REAL life and not make believe.

I am sure that I will catch a load of trouble for this, but I firmly believe in the right to choose - These kids chose to have sex, knowing quite well that there was a risk of pregnancy, then they BOTH should pay there debt. You laid in your bed, you have to make it.

Now, we must never be uncompassionate in responding to these "children." But mind you, Christ did not waiver in his sternness against sin. He rebuked and revealed the sin for what it was. He did not sugar coat it in any way. Then, and only after the realization of the situation the sinner was in, did he offer compassion and healing.

We must never forget that those in the dark do not realize they are in darkness until the light is turned on. It's time for we Followers of Christ to "Flip the Switch."

Agape

[Cd4u_2]

The child does not need to be punished for his mother's mistakes. So I think they should let them bond with the child, unless they are going to put their child up to adoption (bonding will make it harder on the mother).

But I also think they should try to keep up with schooling.. so they will have to learn from textbooks without a teacher (it is not easy to learn by yourself so that's itself is a punishment) or go to summer school.

The boys do not need to be punished though. They will have to pay child support anyway, I think. but the way people look at it that the girl chose not use proper birth control and he may not even be the father.