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Biblenuggetlady
April 2nd, 2009, 12:33 PM
Fruchtenbaum has a free audio study on angels, fallen angels and demons.

http://ariel.org/dcs.htm The 5th Section of on the list.

I agree that the 4 angels bound in the Euphrates are 4 literal angels bound literally in the Euphrates, and they are the leaders of the 2nd demonic invasion, the first invasion was lead by one. The first could torment, but not kill...these are told to kill 1/3 of the earth's population. This second demonic invasion is the 200 million army, these are not Chinese or any human men or machinery. The "Chinese" theory was not based on proper exegesis.
Ready4ThatDay
April 2nd, 2009, 12:43 PM
Waaay back when there was just void... God knew the future. All of it. Yet he still created the angels, Lucifer, and man, resulting in much rebellion (along with the fellowship of followers). WHY? I don't expect a real answer, as we can't understand in human terms the plans of God.

Because even in eternity before the creation there were attributes of God's nature yet to be expressed. God is the Father of lights in whom there is no variableness nor shadow of turning, so even before there were men to save, he was salvation, redeemer, healer, deliverer, etc. The plan of God was always that Adam would sin and thus fail him. So long as the potentiality for sin existed, his work was unfinished. (Dont confuse that statement with creation being finished). Through the revelation of God to man as his only saviour, his eternal plan became clear. We cannot overlook the humbling fact that even though God knew we were sinners, he not only died for us, but created us at all.
Buzzardhut
April 2nd, 2009, 12:54 PM
Maybe he shared his plans with Satan?

Not sure if they had a conversation about it but satan did watch God create Adam and give him dominion over the earth


Buzzardhut ? after they left???? left from where? their first rank and position?some of the angels left heaven with satan which is why they are called fallen angels


We cannot overlook the humbling fact that even though God knew we were sinners, he not only died for us, but created us at all.amen! God showed a side of himself the angels never realized, that He accepts those that have fallen away from Him but return in repentance.
The angels never knew that
turtle
April 22nd, 2009, 11:52 PM
I don't really know who else to ask except you all so here goes.

I was wondering if anyone can give me an Idea of the authenticity of this book?

Why did it not get into the bible?

and just some general feedback on what you people might think of this book.

I have read most of it and it is very very deep and scary and just plain wild.

Here is a link to the book of Enoch if anyone wants to check it out.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/
Anthony
April 23rd, 2009, 03:23 PM
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=89278

More about this book.
tres amigos
April 25th, 2009, 12:21 PM
I don't really know who else to ask except you all so here goes.

I was wondering if anyone can give me an Idea of the authenticity of this book?

Why did it not get into the bible?

and just some general feedback on what you people might think of this book.

I have read most of it and it is very very deep and scary and just plain wild.

Here is a link to the book of Enoch if anyone wants to check it out.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/

Does your interest lie in learning more about the Nephilim?
MrMannn
April 25th, 2009, 01:03 PM
This was written 200 years after the death of Christ. Its fake.

God is in control. He can shape events and make things happen. If He wanted it in the Bible, it would be there. The simple fact that the book is not there should sound a warning bell to any Christian.

There were a lot of fake books of the Bible written in the centuries that followed. They were written to deceive, not to enlighten. We call them the gnostic books. satan wanted to open a schism in the church by introducing false doctrine.
The Book of Enoch is likely one of these.

There is nothing to be learned from it. If it was meant to be in the Word, then God would have included it 2000 years ago.

Christian beware, this is of satan, not God.
KaiafromBergen
April 25th, 2009, 01:18 PM
I only read the Book of Enoch recently (as well as other apocryphal books - just to find out what all the "interest" was in these documents), and found them to be contrary to Scripture.

As Mr. Mannn has already said, it is false, there is a reason it was left out of the Canon of Scripture.

You need to realize that the Bible we have was painstakingly put together, under prayerful consideration of every book and letter (I mean letters like those sent one to another, not alphabetical letters.)

There were reasons many "books" were not included in the Bible: The "chronological" time the book was written, the incompatibility with the overwhelming Truth of the well documented, historically (chronologically) correct tombs, and most importantly, the God Breathed Inspiration of Scripture.

I know that God is Able to preserve His Word, and He would not allow heresy to pollute it.
BigBunny
April 25th, 2009, 01:34 PM
This was written 200 years after the death of Christ. Its fake.
that's enough for me :D thanx MrMannn
jc513
April 26th, 2009, 05:12 PM
This was written 200 years after the death of Christ. Its fake.

God is in control. He can shape events and make things happen. If He wanted it in the Bible, it would be there. The simple fact that the book is not there should sound a warning bell to any Christian.

There were a lot of fake books of the Bible written in the centuries that followed. They were written to deceive, not to enlighten. We call them the gnostic books. satan wanted to open a schism in the church by introducing false doctrine.
The Book of Enoch is likely one of these.

There is nothing to be learned from it. If it was meant to be in the Word, then God would have included it 2000 years ago.

Christian beware, this is of satan, not God.


If it was wrote 200 years after Jesus, why did the book of Jude, verses 14,15 refer to it? Or is there another book of Enoch? I am not stating the validity of the Book of Enoch just because Jude referred to the Book of Enoch, and it does not mean we should give it an additional authority. Just as Paul referred to Epimenide's in the book of Titus. I am curious with the statement 200 years after the death of Jesus it was written.