Nephilim, Demons, Cloning, Aliens, UFOs

[WCG777]

the ufos might be demons and cant travel like other angels do because the might have lost thier wings when they rebelled

[tjplaw]

the ufos might be demons and cant travel like other angels do because the might have lost their wings when they rebelled

Good point!!!

[BlessedinHim]

Have you read Ezekiel? The wheels in the wheels in the wheels? Usually they are depicted in the clouds or on the ground. what has the clouds been hiding or keeping from our view if anything?

[tjplaw]

Have you read Ezekiel? The wheels in the wheels in the wheels? Usually they are depicted in the clouds or on the ground. what has the clouds been hiding or keeping from our view if anything?

Read the book many, many times, but they weren't created by aliens.

Time for me to move on, this thread has lost it's fun.

[BlessedinHim]

My point was not about aliens. I dont believe in aliens. My point was and is this: Demons and Satan were angels created just like the rest of the angelic host. They fell. did they change outwardly? Nothing indicates that they were changed outwardly. If they were not changed outwardly, then why is it not possible that there was a peek into the angelic realm we cannot see with the naked eye? I dont know, it is just a thought.

[Ashley]

Can someone please explain to me how this could be angelic activity? I have a very hard time accepting this. This reminds me of the conspiracy theorists who claim there really is no God- only aliens. They think the ancients were so stupid that they mistook ancient alien visitations for God and angels. I think claiming these sightings are "angels with technology" is walking a thin line.

I'm not trying to be disagreeable but it sounds silly to me. Why on earth would angels be zooming around in space ships? It sounds like nonsense to me.

[usaf_chaplain]

Yes, UFO sightings are certainly something that is helping prepare the world for 'the big lie'. But other things are preparing the world as well...the emerging church, mystical practices such as contemplative prayer, prayer labyrinths, and other new age practices are as well.

[BlessedinHim]

Ezekiel 1:4And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

5Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.

6And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

7And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.

8And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.

9Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.

10As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

11Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.

12And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went.

13As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.

14And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.

15Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.

16The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

17When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.

18As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

19And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.

20Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

21When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

22And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

23And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.

24And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

25And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

27And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.

28As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

Well, here we have wheels and wheels within wheels and the sound of many waters and straight movement. Satan is known as an angel of light. When satan fell, did he lose this knowledge or ability? I am merely suggesting that this Could be an explanation. Isnt satan known for being a great imitator?

[christ_ambassador]

precisely. to think that ufos are merely some kind of "visual deception" being conveyed by 'evil spirits' is a deception in itself.

"ufos" and their occupants are real. the threat of deceptions in the future, maybe corresponding to the rapture or the second coming, are very real as well.

Also one of jimmy's sermons, named "Angels and prophecy, he gives a great bit of info that he even documents a sighting of the virgin mary,in the state of Georgia in the US, which he states would be an evil angel posing as the woman mary, but he also noted it was recorded for the record as saying, "my son is coming", the A/C.

we may not be far off..:thinking

[FrankBeMe]

Ezekiel's wheel has long been used by the UFO community as evidence that we have been visited by aliens for thousands of years. To them, Ezekiel couldn't have seen anything but a space ship in that vision.

Even the cloud that led the Israelites out of Egypt has been claimed to be a cigar shaped UFO.

There's a painting from I believe the 15th or 16th century of Mary and baby Jesus that has some sort of flying object in the sky behind them.

And yes, there are many who believe that we are the product of aliens who mated with primitive humans thousands of years ago.

The amount of activity is different every year. For example, the first major flap---that's hundreds of sightings over one place over a period of time--was in 1952 over Washington, DC. If I remember right, nothing else has come close.

Most recently, there have been thousands of sightings in Mexico. These include what experts are calling "flying hominids." (They are pretty weird looking).

What are they? I don't know. Could they be what many think..from another planet or dimension? Or part of the deception of Satan? I'll go with the latter .