Nephilim, Demons, Cloning, Aliens, UFOs

[PeterSung]

Semantics. They're one and the same. ETs or "aliens" are the secular world's name for them,. We know them as angels, messengers, fallen angles, demonic beings etc....

The Bible says that the fallen angels "left their abode" and came to earth to take the daughters of men (many think this means they raped them)

In Hebrew the intent behind abode was more than just a dwelling place it was a location where one lives out his existence, a home, a place of gathering and carrying on.

The resulting offspring from those pairings are the Nephlim. The fallen ones came from someplace, an abode perhaps another galaxy or universe/dimension.

THAT place I believe is out of our reach but nonetheless a very REAL physical place.

Actually no the bible doesn't say such a thing at all. Quote from scripture please. It never says angels "left their abode" and came to earth to take the daughters of men, OR are you referencing the Apocrypha, the book of Enoch which is NOT the biblical canon.

[BlessedinHim]

that could be one ethical argument. Do the Nephilim have a soul since they are part human? Can they achieve salvation due to their human part or does the angel part negate that? Does the angel part just over power the human part and the human part has no chance? I think it would not be good to be a nephilim.

[Caver]

Chuck Missler teaches that there is a difference. He teaches that the fallen angels coming together with women, the result was the Nephilim. Demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim after the flood.

:wave STevenw. What I think Chuck actually says is that this is a possibility...not definite, not even probable. There is some reason for believing this as opposed to just pulling it out of the air but he does emphasize this is not taught as fact but maybe the best of current theories.

[Buzzardhut]

Chuck Missler teaches that there is a difference. He teaches that the fallen angels coming together with women, the result was the Nephilim. Demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim after the flood.
I don't know how he gets that without a lot of extra biblical gymnastics.
Classical theology teaches only 2 races, the angelic race and human race.
1/3 of the angels fell and became demons, they are still angels but are fallen angels, they masquerade as disembodied spirits and possess bodies as well as deception through the world system.

Missler also teaches KJV only so those that believe in Missler's Nephilim must be KJV only too. It would be too selective to accept one of his teachings but disregard his other teachings.


:wave STevenw. What I think Chuck actually says is that this is a possibility...not definite, not even probable. There is some reason for believing this as opposed to just pulling it out of the air but he does emphasize this is not taught as fact but maybe the best of current theories.
It's one of 3 theories, none of the three theories can be proven as the best due to limited Biblical information.

[lisaann]

Wouldn't intermarrying with unbelievers and pagans also pollute the blood line?
(Which is why God formed the Jewish race from Abraham, to preserve a bloodline.)

:thinking I can't believe that I never "got" this point before. :doh :thumb

[jeshurun]

I've often heard it expressed that UFO's are "demonic". That UFO's are part of the satanic end-times deception. In another thread it was asserted that Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster could be "demonic". If you adhere to these beliefs, please answer some questions.

1. Where in the Bible is it stated that demons inhabit non-living things?

2. Where in the Bible does it say that demons construct physical objects?

3. Where in the Bible does it say that demons have visited other planets?

4. Can Satan travel to other planets? If so, how?

I've always been curious to hear explanations to these questions.Hi,

idols (statue/image/likeness) are things, right? the bible says if you sacrifice to idols you sacrifice to devils. So, you could say devils inhabit idols.
(1 Corinthians 10:19) What say I then? that a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything?

(1 Corinthians 10:20) But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have communion with devils.

(1 Corinthians 10:21) Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot partake of the table of the Lord, and of the table of devils.
Would you consider a location/place a thing? Devils inhabit waterless places for some reason. Space is mostly waterless, particularly liquid water. Neighboring planets are a lot drier than earth mostly, right?
(Matthew 12:43) But the unclean spirit, when he is gone out of the man, passeth through waterless places, seeking rest, and findeth it not.
:thumb

[Buzzardhut]

Hi,

idols (statue/image/likeness) are things, right? the bible says if you sacrifice to idols you sacrifice to devils. So, you could say devils inhabit idols.Would you consider a location/place a thing? Devils inhabit waterless places for some reason. Space is mostly waterless, particularly liquid water. Neighboring planets are a lot drier than earth mostly, right?:thumb
Possible they hang around it but not in it. :idunno
It's a metaphysical issue anyway.

[jeshurun]

I've often heard it expressed that UFO's are "demonic". That UFO's are part of the satanic end-times deception. In another thread it was asserted that Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster could be "demonic". If you adhere to these beliefs, please answer some questions.

1. Where in the Bible is it stated that demons inhabit non-living things?

2. Where in the Bible does it say that demons construct physical objects?

3. Where in the Bible does it say that demons have visited other planets?

4. Can Satan travel to other planets? If so, how?

I've always been curious to hear explanations to these questions.I adhere to the theory that sometimes angelic beings incarnate. They sometimes become kings and/or mighty men. The bible addresses them and in a few verses it provides glimpses into these beings' behavior and mindset.
(Isaiah 14:13) And thou saidst in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; and I will sit upon the mount of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north:

(Isaiah 14:14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.

(Obadiah 1:3) The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

(Obadiah 1:4) Though thou mount on high as the eagle, and though thy nest be set among the stars, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the LORD.

(Amos 5:26) Yea, ye have borne Siccuth your king and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselvesIts all biblical. Even if we go extrabiblical these beings are associated with stars.

Now why would that be?:lol2

[Buzzardhut]

I adhere to the theory that sometimes angelic beings incarnate. They sometimes become kings and/or mighty men. The bible addresses them and in a few verses it provides glimpses into these beings' behavior and mindset.Its all biblical. Even if we go extrabiblical these beings are associated with stars.

Now why would that be?:lol2

Demons don't have to go incarnate to influence humans.
They are princes and powers of the air, they can move about this planet, and perhaps even the solar system
They can possess humans, which is even more dangerous

[jeshurun]

Demons don't have to go incarnate to influence humans.
They are princes and powers of the air, they can move about this planet, and perhaps even the solar system
They can possess humans, which is even more dangerousIf they possess, they are already in the flesh hence incarnated.:lol2