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September 26th, 2008, 03:28 AM
I don't think this is 'as looney' as what the new age people believe...i.e. 'Operation World Evacuation.' Accordingly to the new age channelers, UFOs (aka Nephilim) will be making contact with mankind. I don't doubt it one bit.
September 26th, 2008, 04:09 AM
I think you should stay away from this book.
Here's their own published excerpt:
This is one of the oldest mystical symbols in the world and can be found in Aztec, Chinese, and Native American mythologies, among others. In alchemical symbolism, the mouth of the snake is viewed as a place of arrival and departure of "spirit beings" (gods, angels, higher self) who use wormholes, or in my opinion, "stargates," to navigate dimensions or heaven; for example, the god Quetzalcoatl, the most vicious and well-known Aztec deity (important throughout Mesoamerica for nearly 2000 years, from 2500 BC until the Spanish Conquest) connected to the planet Venus is portrayed as "being" or "entering" the ouroboros on Aztec and Toltec ruins. In some renderings a ladder is seen descending from the ecliptic—such as when Quetzalcoatl descends from the sky on a rope ladder or when Jacob in the Bible sees a ladder leading up into heaven—providing a connecting point between earth and heaven. (Early Christians were familiar with teachings about "Gates of Heaven," and some suggest St. Peter's appointment as "gate-keeper" is a reference to this belief. Statues of Peter often show him holding two keys—the keys to lower and higher heaven, life and death, heaven and hell, or other dualisms. Some believe that Jesus Himself referred to these gates in Matthew 7.14 and 16.18.)
One of the recently compelling aspects of the universal serpent-stargate imagery has to do with the year 2012 and the prophesied "end of times" reopening of the serpent portal. The end of the great cycle of the Maya calendar and the planetary cycle of the Aztec calendar is December 21, 2012.
According to The Bible Code, the world will end on this date due to a collision with a meteor, asteroid, or comet.
David Flynn, author of Cydonia: The Secret Chronicles of Mars, emailed me in 2005 to say:
Tom, in the zodiac, where the sun travels across the sky, the four brightest stars are found four signs apart in Taurus, Leo, Aquarius, and Scorpio (Ophiuchus). ...[long zodiac explanation]
Let's see. We have promotion of Apocrypha books (NON-cannon). We have 2012 date setting. We have the bible codes thrown in. We have promotion of the zodiac as having a *real* meaning, oh, AND we have promotion of the idea that those false Aztec gods were real and using the gates that they say Jesus was talking about.
And that's just ONE PAGE. :twitch
I'd make a great science fiction book, but I wouldn't promote it as anything even remotely Christian or believable. Just my two cents.
Grace thru Faith
September 26th, 2008, 05:12 AM
I predict that this thread will get a big padlock placed on it. I do not think that there should be any attention paid to the book of Enoch for the reasons posted above.
September 26th, 2008, 06:01 AM
Why connect nephilim to 2012?
Really, leave the biblical to the biblical and the unbiblical to the unbiblical.
I just keep pointing to Genesis 6:1-4 and verses in the New Testament, which should suffice.
Explaining extra-biblical accounts in the light of what the scriptures say, is one thing, blending both into an unhealthy mix is dangerous.
October 22nd, 2008, 12:14 AM
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
So what do you think? Cyclops, Zeus,Medusa,various giants etc. Were these the offspring on the unholy union between fallen angels and human women? It seems perfectly plausible to me. The titans were real. They had all kinds of freaky mutations and were huge and scary.
October 22nd, 2008, 12:26 AM
I do not doubt for one minute that the Nephilim were real. Therefore, it would seem reasonable to assume that there is some truth behind the Greek myths and that there were also giants involved there.
October 22nd, 2008, 02:34 PM
My two cents...
The 'sons of God' and Giants
Genesis 6:2-4 " That the sons of God saw the daughters ofmen that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose... ¶There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men , and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown".
The sons of God:
There are mainly two interpretations as to who the ' sons of God 'of the above verses are:
1. Godly line of Seth
2. Fallen angels
Godly line of Seth:
Some think the " sons of God" are the male descendants of Seth (Adam's son) and "daughters of men " are female descendants ofCain. This argument has no Scriptural explanation whatsoever.
We see some instances in the Old Testament where the angels are called " sons of God" ( Job 1:6, Job 2:1 and Job 38:7). But for some it is hard to see how angels can take women (daughtersof men) and beget children, especially in the light of Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25, that angels are not given in marriage.
Doesn't matter who they are:
Some others go on to say it doesn't matter who the "sons ofGod" are as long as we take 'morals' out of the story. This is the most dangerous view that we neglect to study God's word in depth thinking it is not necessary. " Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain" (James 4:5)?
I believe studying about the " sons of God " would help us UNDERSTAND THE END TIMES, that had been prophesied umpteen times in the Scriptures.
The term "sons of God" as used in the Scriptures has something to do with DIRECT CREATION or DIRECT BEGETTING by God(as opposed to REPRODUCTION).
1. In the Old Testament, the 'sons of God' were referred to the Angels who were created DIRECTLY BY GOD (they were NOT BORN like us). Read this verse, "Where wast thou when I laid the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?... When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD shouted for joy?" (Job 38:4,7) . It is pretty obvious that they are the angels. He created ALL OF THEM DIRECTLY (Colossians 1:16).
2. And in the New Testament, " sons of God" are referred to the believers. "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God" (Romans 8:14). And EVERYONE that is IN CHRIST is a NEW CREATURE ( 2Co 5:17, Ga 6:15 ). We are BORN OF THE SPIRIT (John 3:6 ) DIRECTLY. Do you see my point here? We are NEW CREATURES in Christ and born to Godin Spirit (at our being BORN AGAIN). That is why we believers are also called "sons of God" in New Testament. God does not have any 'grand children' but sons and daughters.
3. Adam was called the "son of God" (notice the small letter, 'son' and not 'Son') in Lu 3:38. If you read from verse 23 till the last verse, we see different people being called the sons of their father. But Adam had no earthly father. He was CREATED DIRECTLY by God, that is why the Scriptures call him "son ofGod" (Note: Not "Son of God" with CAPITAL 'S', that title belongs to the Lord Jesus alone)
This shows how carefully and accurately the Scriptures are written. "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, PURIFIED SEVEN TIMES..." (Psalms 12:6-7)
When it is so consistent in the Scriptures on the way " sons ofGod" is used, I see no reason why the "sons of God" are actually "sons of Men"!!?? It is simply a denial of what is written plainly in the Scriptures. Now let me now explain why I believe that the "sons of God" are actually the fallen angels.
Before going further, let me clear the objection that the angels cannot reproduce (based on Matt 22:30 and Mark 12:25). No where do we read that the angels cannot reproduce. The text simply says they " neither marry, nor are given in marriage". And by careful reading of the text, we find that they are " ANGELS IN HEAVEN". Because it is UNNATURAL to them to marry, as there are no 'female angels'. That is why they "neither marry, nor given in marriage ". But we're talking about "sons of God" ON EARTH. Jude talks about the "angels which KEPT NOT THEIR FIRST ESTATE, BUT LEFT THEIR OWN HABITATION, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" (Jude 1:6) .
Infact the very fact that the "sons of God" being differentiated from the " daughters of men" is sufficient proof to say that they are NOT the "sons of men".
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men" (Genesis 6:4).
These giants were the result of " sons of God" taking "daughtersof men" to wives. This is the first mention of "giants" in the Bible. The Next mention is in Numbers 13:33, "And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers , and so we were in their sight".
Og, king of Bashan was a giant, his bed was made of iron and the size was 13 feet tall and 6 feet wide (Deuteronomy 3:11). You can imagine their SIZE. No wonder the children of Israel looked like GRASSHOPPERS before them. This gives us clue that these 'giants' are NOT born to humans. Bible tells that king Og was "remained of the remnant of the giants" (Deuteronomy 3:11, Joshua 13:12). But again we see them in2Saumel 21:20-22. David and his servants slew them. No more giants since then!
This phenomena is going to be repeated in the end times. Remember how the Lord Jesus compared the days of Noah and the days of Lot with the end times? The common factor is "giving themselves over to fornication, AND going after STRANGE FLESH " (Jude 1:7). In the days of Noah, the "daughters of men" were given to the "sons of God" and in the days of Lot, people were homosexuals AND they went after the ANGELS, although unknowingly ( Genesis 19:1-5). The Lord prophecied, "... as the DAYS OF NOE were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be" (Mat 24:37). So this going after the " strange flesh " is going to be repeated again. This is not a mere guess, we have a glimpse of it in Daniel.
Daniel 2:40-43 "And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: ..., forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and partof clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY SHALL MINGLE THEMSELVES WITH THE SEEDOF MEN: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay ".
We see in this Nebuchadnezzar's dream that "the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron". In verse.43, "THEY shall mingle themselves WITH THE SEED OF MEN" , it is clear that THEY are NOT seed of men but will mingle with the seed of men. And " the seed of men" are compared to CLAY and 'they' are compared to IRON. Who are THEY!!?? You can imagine.
No wonder the little horn (Antichrist) of Daniel 7:20 will be "MORE STOUT than his fellows ", he could well be a GIANT.
Bottom line is, no Scripture is given in vain (that we should ignore as 'not necessary') nor is the Scripture is of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). How true it is that " the scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35). " For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; HERE A LITTLE, and THERE A LITTLE " (Isaiah 28:10). That is the Word of God for us!!!
October 23rd, 2008, 11:19 AM
Chuck Missler is one of my favorites on this subject.!
October 23rd, 2008, 05:04 PM
You guys are ALL wrong. Modern day Nephilim are Ron Paul supporters.
October 23rd, 2008, 05:11 PM
You guys are ALL wrong. Modern day Nephilim are Ron Paul supporters.
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