Catholic Question: One World Religion

[pegmo]

Do Catholics believe in the prophetic one world religion?

What role do Catholics think the RCC will play in the one world religion, if any?

[WretchSaved]

IMO they already believe they are the "True Church". Their role will not begin, it already has.

[JoelH]

Do Catholics believe in the prophetic one world religion?

What role do Catholics think the RCC will play in the one world religion, if any?

It depends on individual Catholics. Broad Catholics who believe on the post-Vatican II side generally will say "no" and regard the talks as scaremongering.

The more traditionalist/conservative types will believe like us, there is an end time One World Religion and it is not Christian. But in generally they believe the ecumenical overtures from the Vatican is separate from that One World religion and with the "broad" bretherns regard our talks as scaremongering as well.

Even more traditional (termed "conservative Catholics") believe the Vatican is making a mistake in ecumenism and they disapprove of documents like Evangelicals and Catholics Together (ECT), Assisi peace prayer in 1986, and call for Catholics not to take part in the likes of Billy Graham crusades. They believe a post-Benedict XVI pope will be apostate and become a part of the whore of Babylon. But still regarding the current Vatican as fundamentally sound.

The most die-hard conservative Catholics, led by the likes of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) believe all popes since John XXIII (Vatican II) have been controlled by New Agers and they will become One World Church.

I personally found the conservative Catholics and SSPX hold very similar eschatology with us concerning the Antichrist and One World Religion. The broad Catholics (almost all of the Catholics we see on this site) less so.

Hope this helps.

YBIC,

Joel

[Angyl]

It depends on individual Catholics.

Totally agree. :hat

[fcbuddy]

It depends on individual Catholics. Broad Catholics who believe on the post-Vatican II side generally will say "no" and regard the talks as scaremongering.

The more traditionalist/conservative types will believe like us, there is an end time One World Religion and it is not Christian. But in generally they believe the ecumenical overtures from the Vatican is separate from that One World religion and with the "broad" bretherns regard our talks as scaremongering as well.

Even more traditional (termed "conservative Catholics") believe the Vatican is making a mistake in ecumenism and they disapprove of documents like Evangelicals and Catholics Together (ECT), Assisi peace prayer in 1986, and call for Catholics not to take part in the likes of Billy Graham crusades. They believe a post-Benedict XVI pope will be apostate and become a part of the whore of Babylon. But still regarding the current Vatican as fundamentally sound.

The most die-hard conservative Catholics, led by the likes of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) believe all popes since John XXIII (Vatican II) have been controlled by New Agers and they will become One World Church.

I personally found the conservative Catholics and SSPX hold very similar eschatology with us concerning the Antichrist and One World Religion. The broad Catholics (almost all of the Catholics we see on this site) less so.

Hope this helps.

YBIC,

Joel

Just to be clear, the Society of St. Pius X are no more Catholic than the Anglican Church. Just like the Old Catholic Church before Vatican I, the SSPX broke communion and are in schism.

You are also misinformed with regards to the end-time beliefs of traditional Catholics. The belief about a one world religion (non-Christian), one-world government, rapture, ect. are fairly new in their current form. The essence of traditionalism rejects or at least discourages new developments in theology. I don't think traditional catholics deny the possibility that these things could happen in some form, however it is not a solid belief.

Also, all Catholics are mandated to ecunumerical efforts. The Catholic Church wants unity of faith with every single soul on earth. Some traditional Catholics do reject this mandate but most only reject the things some bishops, priests, and lay people have done "in the spirit of Vatican II." Their main arguments are focused on the changes in the Mass. As everybody knows, people resist change all the time. These people prefer the TLM because it has more history and is not subject to the changes the new Mass has undertaken. However, they must understand that the first masses were not done in Latin. They were done in Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek depending on where the Apostles were at.

[pegmo]

FCBUDDY wrote: Also, all Catholics are mandated to ecunumerical efforts. The Catholic Church wants unity of faith with every single soul on earth.

How do you see a separate one world "non-Christian" religion developing, when the goal of the Catholic Church is to unite with every single soul on earth? Its more likely that they are one in the same given the lateness of the prophetic hour.

[JoelH]

How do you see a separate one world "non-Christian" religion developing, when the goal of the Catholic Church is to unite with every single soul on earth? Its more likely that they are one in the same given the lateness of the prophetic hour.

That poster is perhaps a broad Catholic. I know quite a number of conservative Catholics from another forum that openly disapprove the current ecumenism activities of a number of high-ranking Vatican officials.

[JoelH]

Just to be clear, the Society of St. Pius X are no more Catholic than the Anglican Church. Just like the Old Catholic Church before Vatican I, the SSPX broke communion and are in schism.

You are also misinformed with regards to the end-time beliefs of traditional Catholics. The belief about a one world religion (non-Christian), one-world government, rapture, ect. are fairly new in their current form. The essence of traditionalism rejects or at least discourages new developments in theology. I don't think traditional catholics deny the possibility that these things could happen in some form, however it is not a solid belief.

Also, all Catholics are mandated to ecunumerical efforts. The Catholic Church wants unity of faith with every single soul on earth. Some traditional Catholics do reject this mandate but most only reject the things some bishops, priests, and lay people have done "in the spirit of Vatican II." Their main arguments are focused on the changes in the Mass. As everybody knows, people resist change all the time. These people prefer the TLM because it has more history and is not subject to the changes the new Mass has undertaken. However, they must understand that the first masses were not done in Latin. They were done in Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek depending on where the Apostles were at.

From the way you said you have a lot of axes to grind against your conservative bretherns in your church. It doesn't concern me one bit as it is you Catholics' own problem to sort out, but according to your church's theology, the unity does not come in expense of truth, and plainly speaking Assisi 1986 was a heterodox act that Benedict XVI is trying his hardest to hide. And don't forget that Benedict XVI is signalling the cafeteria is closed, and he is a lot more outspokenly conservative than John Paul II on ecumenism.

And I don't think I need to mention the deeds of Cardinal Roger Mahoney - just his name is sufficient incite bitter differences between you and a lot of other fellow Catholics. Suffice to say a lot of your fellow Catholics believe what he does in ecumenism is anti-Catholic.