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Sing4Him
January 30th, 2008, 09:42 PM
Contemplative Proponents Rick Warren and Pete Scazzero Talk to New York Pastors

Source: Miscellaneous News Source

By Katherine T. Phan
Christian Post Reporter

"City Pastors Switch Pulpits for Solitude, Renewal"

MT. BETHEL, Pa. - When city folk want a refuge from the hustle and bustle of the city and the laundry list of demands from daily life they come to the quiet hills of Pennsylvania. For New York pastors, finding renewal is also as simple as going back to the basics.

"Silence and solitude are the two most difficult spiritual disciplines in the West," Pete Scazerro, author of Emotionally Healthy Spirituality, told a crowd of 300 New York church leaders who kicked off their annual prayer retreat at Mt. Bethel, Pa., on Monday.

As a pastor himself, Scazerro said there were times he was so busy fulfilling the demands of his position that it was hard for him to find time alone with God. He could be preparing a sermon for hours and still not think about God, he said to acknowledging grunts and chuckles.

"We're not a reflective people, we are a doing," said Scazerro to the church leaders. "But unless we get to God, we cannot send a life raft to our church."

Placing God in the center again has be done with a conscious effort, said the author, who challenged the leaders to re-incorporate a "trellis" or "rule of life" such as Scripture, Sabbath, or play and recreation into their spiritual journey.Click here to read this entire news story:

City Pastors Switch Pulpits for Solitude, Renewal
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080129/31009_City_Pastors_Switch_Pulpits_for_Solitude%2C_ Renewal.htm
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Berean Girl
January 30th, 2008, 10:20 PM
Can you say vomit............................................. . :hehee

JustinSolo
January 31st, 2008, 11:59 AM
So basically because Rick Warren is there, then every pastor there is condemned and not truly seeking God? What is so bad about a prayer retreat? The article did not say they were definitely talking about anything "shady" regarding theology.:idunno

Yeah, yeah, we "hate" Rick Warren "teaching". I got that part.

Berean Girl
January 31st, 2008, 04:33 PM
We hate the "Warren's false gospel" part. If he was "teaching the real Gospel", we would not have a problem on this board with him.

Jesus said you shall know them by their fruit and also you will know a man by the company he keeps and whatever proceedeth from the mouth of a man is what is in his heart.

Since it has been proven ad nauseaum on this board that he is teaching false gospel, philosophies of men, doctrines of demons and bowing under seducing spirits, I would venture to say that he has nothing to teach us.

:tsk

BlessedinHim
January 31st, 2008, 04:47 PM
But for three days, that's what New York pastors are called to do at the 17th annual Pastors' Prayer Summit, sponsored by Concerts of Prayer Greater New York (COPGNY), an umbrella organization for pastors, church leaders and ministry leaders within the tri-state region.

"It's a time of profound spiritual renewal for leaders who have extraordinary responsibilities," Mac Pier, president of COPGNY, told The Christian Post.

COPGNY seeks "to gather leaders in an upper room prayer experience with Jesus," said Pier, who has been involved with the organization in New York City since 1991.

This year, the prayer event carries the theme "Be With Me Where I Am." In each offered session, guest speakers will take the participants through verses in John 17.

While the annual gathering serves to recharge the Christian leaders, it is also a time for the five boroughs of New York City and the tri-state regions to network for collaborative mission.

That issue will be addressed by Rick Warren, author of The Purpose Driven Life and pastor of Saddleback Church, who is scheduled to address the crowd Tuesday morning.



It would be cheaper and more would come of it if these pastors would just go out to the country somewhere and rent them a little cabin and take off three days and just read and study the word and pray and listen to what God has to say. They are wanting to get away from the doing.... but they are still just doing.....

why do they need this special gathering of doing along with Rick Warren who will most likely lead them down the road to contemplative prayer and/or some experience which may only be demonic.....

What has light got to do with darkness???

Berean Girl
January 31st, 2008, 04:56 PM
That's what we keep asking and getting unreasonable responses to - namely, what business has light with dark, although in the case of these pastors, it seems their "light" is dim or non-existent altogether.

I can't anymore. :doh

JustinSolo
February 1st, 2008, 08:22 AM
Disclaimer. I am not saying I support the Emergent Church. I don't.

I just can't tell from the article what exactly they will be "teaching", if anything, there. Obviously the media gets comments from Warren because he is the most famous. I'm sure some pastors will be there to seek God and not "Warren".

Also, I might attend something like this just for research purposes, to hear with my own ears and see with my own eyes what exactly he might "teach" at the conference. Sometimes it is nice to make a judgment based on your own discernment instead of the media or other Christians.

JustinSolo
February 1st, 2008, 08:31 AM
I went and did some research. It was a 3 day thing with multiple events, and sessions. Looks like Rick had one 2-2.5 hour session. You could skip that if you wanted.

BlessedinHim
February 1st, 2008, 09:31 AM
I hope they all skipped Rick!!!

iSong6:3
February 1st, 2008, 03:18 PM
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