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billiefan2000
February 4th, 2008, 11:34 AM
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ATLANTA (BP)--To restore their prophetic voice in the culture, Baptists must reject "narrow" interpretations of Scripture and oppose both the Iraq war and President Bush's tax cuts, plenary session speakers said Jan. 31 at the Celebration of a New Baptist Covenant in Atlanta.

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Novelist John Grisham said it is time for Baptists to stop reading the Bible with so-called narrow literalness and celebrate diversity.

He criticized the Baptist church he attended during his youth for taking what he said was an inconsistent and intolerant approach to Scripture.

"In the Baptist church of my youth we were taught that the Bible is the infallible, inerrant Word of God -- every word is divinely inspired and it is to be read literally," Grisham said. "It just dropped out of heaven. Five thousand years ago God made the earth in six days, 144 hours. Then He rested on the Sabbath, which is really on Saturday but we're not going to start that debate. Methuselah lived to be a [thousand], and when Paul wrote that women should be submissive, that was the literal interpretation. It was the law.

http://www.baptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?id=27309



Grisham speaks

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The meeting also heard from well-known author, John Grisham.

Baptist Press reports he criticized the Southern Baptist church where he grew up for teaching that the Bible is the infallible, inerrant Word of God. According to the BP article, Grisham called churches holding such beliefs intolerant and harmful to the cause of Christ. " The church was proudly intolerant of other people, other denominations, other religions," Grisham said. "Sadly, in many ways and in many places, that church still exists today."

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=66257



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2 Timothy 4:3-4


For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.


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A Berean
February 4th, 2008, 11:45 AM
:doh Wise in his own eyes :ohno...

susanaudrey
February 4th, 2008, 11:52 AM
I'm getting to where anytime I hear the word "diversity" I get nauseous. It's so often used as an excuse and guilt tactic.

In response the Mr. Grisham, I'll just state one of my favorite quotations:
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." ~G. K. Chesterton

billiefan2000
February 4th, 2008, 11:59 AM
susanaudrey I agree


when churches say we should "embrace diversity"

what they mean is embrace apostasy and stop taking John 14:6 as being literal

iSong6:3
February 4th, 2008, 12:13 PM
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lyngraphics
February 4th, 2008, 12:31 PM
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The meeting also heard from well-known author, John Grisham.

Baptist Press reports he criticized the Southern Baptist church where he grew up for teaching that the Bible is the infallible, inerrant Word of God. According to the BP article, Grisham called churches holding such beliefs intolerant and harmful to the cause of Christ. " The church was proudly intolerant of other people, other denominations, other religions," Grisham said. "Sadly, in many ways and in many places, that church still exists today."

And Praise God it still does exist today for OUR children!!!

lyngraphics
February 4th, 2008, 02:19 PM
Imagine if Gore was president when 9/11 happened! *Shudder*

I guess this is a bit out of place then, also!

Sing4Him
February 4th, 2008, 02:29 PM
reflection here:

Jimmy Carter - A New Baptist Voice

by Roger Oakland

Former President Jimmy Carter will be one of the main speakers at Willow Creek, Leadership Summit, August 9-11, 2007. Carter and his ecumenical and unbiblical views are becoming increasingly more popular among leaders that once would have been considered promoters of the gospel according to the scriptures. The New One World Religion Faith Based Social gospel that is being widely promoted by the Emerging Church and Purpose Driven movements seems to be gaining momentum. As well, more and more are oblivious to the fact that is happening.

:ohno


NEWSWEEK's Lisa Miller spoke with Carter about his vision of God, the power of the religious right, and what he's learned from the controversy over his recent book, "Palestine Peace Not Apartheid." Excerpts:

A new book, "Religious Literacy," by Stephen Prothero, argues that religion should be taught in public schools. Do you agree?

Carter: I wouldn't have any aversion to that. To teach a comparative religions course, to compare Christianity with Judaism and Islam and Hinduism and so forth, would be constructive. It would show that there is a compatibility among them all. I can't claim to be a scholar, but when our hostages were being held by Iran when I was president, I read the Quran, and I had Islamic scholars come and talk to me. The basic human-behavior principles were the same. The Islamic Bible, the Quran, teaches peace and justice and care for one's neighbor and helping the poor. I would not be in favor of public schools endorsing Christianity.

Do you think a Mormon is a Christian?

Carter: Yes, I do. I have a cousin who is a Mormon and she married one of the Marriott family. I don't know anyone who's more devout in their faith than she and her family. I admire them very much.

Also see: A Line Has Been Crossed ...No Turning Back?

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newsletter040507.htm

Sing4Him
February 4th, 2008, 02:32 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-carter1feb01,1,6093822.story

:tsk:tsk

Guy4God
February 5th, 2008, 03:43 PM
My youth pastor led worship and the communion messag-ette on Sunday and he talked about how everyone attacks the "narrow way" teaching of Christianity. He simply said that the world can be as broad as they want to be, but Jesus is on the narrow path and if you want to be with Him, you will find Him there. In other words, people can complain all they want, including so-called "christians", but Jesus is just walking down the same path that He started...anyone who wants to is welcome to join Him...He is on the only path that leads to Heaven and He is the only one with the Key to that city...:hat