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Stevangelist
May 28th, 2007, 09:22 PM
What do you believe is the difference between the wrath of God, the wrath of Satan, Gods judgment, and the fallen state of the world?

When major circumstances are happening, How do we know if they are the wrath of God, the wrath of Satan, Gods judgment, natural fallen state of the world or a combination of 2 or more of these factors? :scratch

Myrddin
May 28th, 2007, 09:34 PM
The wrath of Satan is Seals 1-5, and the Wrath of God begins at Seal 6 and extends to the 7th bowl

Saved by Grace_06
May 28th, 2007, 11:45 PM
What do you believe is the difference between the wrath of God, the wrath of Satan, Gods judgment, and the fallen state of the world?

When major circumstances are happening, How do we know if they are the wrath of God, the wrath of Satan, Gods judgment, natural fallen state of the world or a combination of 2 or more of these factors? :scratch

I'm not sure if I understand your question well enough, but here's what I gather from scripture:

I am the Lord, and there is no other. I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and create calamity, I am the Lord, who does all these things. - Isa 45:6-7

Does disaster come to a city, unless the Lord has done it? - Amos 6:3

Let me say from the outset that God is light and in him there is no darkness (1John 1:5). Though God is said to "bring about evil (calamity)" and "cause disaster," in the Bible, he does not stand behind these events as we do. In other words, the Bible often speaks of God's allowing of certain, albeit, "evil events," as from God. Why? Because God is sovereign and absolutely NOTHING happens without his permitting or willing of it. So when Satan brings about evil to a believer, or when a believer is persecuted and killed for their faith at the hands of evil men, "God is still sovereign and in control" for he is the one who allows it for his own purposes. All that said, here's my answer to your question: God's wrath is not even worthy to be compared with any other. His is an infinite wrath that will pour out on all of his enemies for all eternity, and he will not feel sorry for them. In fact, he is gloried in his justice as the smoke of their torment rises up forever and ever. That's very scary! Writing this makes me want to witness NOW!

RefinedbyFire
May 29th, 2007, 10:14 AM
That's very scary! Writing this makes me want to witness NOW!

Not only that, but to live a holy life, while you carry the testimony of His Holy Name! It is a "narrow road" for sure.

Saved by Grace_06
May 29th, 2007, 10:16 AM
Not only that, but to live a holy life, while you carry the testimony of His Holy Name! It is a "narrow road" for sure.

I'm learning that more and more and more. Before I was saved, Christanity was soooo easy. What happened?!