Elijah's prayer army

[booklover]

Does anybody know anything objectionable about this group? I've read some info on their website, and found a lot of interesting material. They have some articles on the Hebrew roots movement.
I know Armstrong's legalism in following Hebrew tradition is not thought well of in many circles. Our Pastor did some classes on Christian liberty, and on not feeling compelled to keep the Sabbath in a strict Jewish manner, or follow Hebrew dietary rules.
I find so much spiritual nourishment in celebrating the Passover, and studying the feasts though. I haven't jumped into a Jewish lifestyle--though we do eat kosher hot dogs and don't eat pork--but I am drawn to a more intentional life following meaningful traditions. The big point in the Hebrew roots article is that we are grafted in to the Olive tree. It is not to our benefit to practice pagan customs, and we should return to our spiritual roots.
Any pitfalls you care to share in moving in a Hebrew Roots direction?

[Guy4God]

Sounds legalistic...I would do a good reading of Colossians 1 & 2 and be very wary of them...:)

[roberto49]

Sounds legalistic...I would do a good reading of Colossians 1 & 2 and be very wary of them...:)

AMEN!!!:hat

[denny272]

Does anybody know anything objectionable about this group? I've read some info on their website, and found a lot of interesting material. They have some articles on the Hebrew roots movement.
I know Armstrong's legalism in following Hebrew tradition is not thought well of in many circles. Our Pastor did some classes on Christian liberty, and on not feeling compelled to keep the Sabbath in a strict Jewish manner, or follow Hebrew dietary rules.
I find so much spiritual nourishment in celebrating the Passover, and studying the feasts though. I haven't jumped into a Jewish lifestyle--though we do eat kosher hot dogs and don't eat pork--but I am drawn to a more intentional life following meaningful traditions. The big point in the Hebrew roots article is that we are grafted in to the Olive tree. It is not to our benefit to practice pagan customs, and we should return to our spiritual roots.
Any pitfalls you care to share in moving in a Hebrew Roots direction?

Yes, lots of pitfalls. Re-read the NT part of your Bible. I'll post a few links to verses so you don't have to read a lengthy post from me.

You either live by law or live by grace, but you can't mix the two.

When Jesus died on the cross for our sins he finished Mosaic law and made a NEW covenant with us. The last words of Jesus in the book of John were, "It is Finished". John 19:28-30
The time of law is fulfilled.
The time of Grace has started.
We are saved by grace and by faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus, the son of the one true living God. Jesus gave only two commandments to replace all of those he finished/Completed by his death on the cross. One new commandment is this: John 15:12 " This is my commandment, that ye love one another, as I have loved you".
And John 6:27-29 "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom He hath sent."
Lastly, Our work to share the the good news that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and no one get's to God (Heaven) but by him. John 14:6

That's it, that's all we have to do once we place our faith and trust in the salvation of Jesus Christ . When you love your neighbor you will not steal from them, lie on them, covet their stuff, have an affair with their spouse, you won't kill them, you will honor them, and you will not worship idols with them. One new commandment encompasses all of the old 10 commandments.
We are not required to keep ANY of the old laws.


Galatians 3:6-18
You can not mix old law and grace. You can not follow bits of law (tithing, killing animals to pay your sin debt, feasts and fasts etc..)and then think that you are under grace.
Grace is an all or nothing deal. Paul says if you follow even one old law, then you are bound to follow ALL of the old laws to the LETTER. Galatians 3:12-13 "The man that doeth them (the laws) shall live in them".

John 4:23-24 God doesn't want feasts and festivals, he wants spiritual worship.

I hope this helps and doesn't confuse you further. :hug
I'm sure you will get a lot of love and advice from the members here.

Welcome to RR :hat

[Kliska]

Booklover, if you like studying the Jewish roots of our faith without someone trying to guide us back into legalism, I recommend Zola Levitt's ministries. They do an excellent job teaching the Jewish perspectives. www.levitt.com Is their website, and although Zola has gone on to be with the Lord, Dr. Jeff Seif, and Zola's widow Sandra are doing an excellent job with the ministry.

[booklover]

Thank you for all your comments.

I read Colossions 1 and 2 again. I've read over the other scriptures about law and grace.

Kliska, I'm familiar with Zola Levitt. I have footsteps of the Messiah too, and plan on getting back to studying it.

I dont' know if Elijah's prayer army is necessarily a group I would want to get involved in--they have a prophecy about the Hebrew Roots movement being the last of a wave of movements that is purifying the church--and 1 of the 1st waves is the Pentecostal movement (which I view now with great caution). I do agree with their view that the Church is a mixture of pagan customs and man made traditions. As Christians, we have allowed the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus too much room in our lives. Our holidays have developed into times of eating too much chocolate, being too stressed because there is too much to do, buying (or feeling guilty for not buying) too much stuff that we do not need.

I have been meditating on law and grace though. I am attracted to the laws of the OT. After reading about the eating habits of pigs and shrimp and crab (I've enjoyed all of their dead bodies), we have made a decision to stay away from these meats for health reasons. I would like to give structure to my day of rest, so it would be the queen of the week--something to look forward to. When we celebrate Passover as a family, the candles are beautiful--it's a beautiful meal, and every part of it is soaked with meaning. I gain so much more spiritual nourishment from celebrating Passover than I have from even a great Easter Cantata. I would never look down on someone as an inferior believer if they eat pork and shellfish, and if they don't celebrate Passover. I am not going to boycott Easter musical productions. I am willing to share my reasons for my "Jewish" behaviors though.

My son has a question to do for teen pact. The question is "can you legislate morality?" The answer is that all laws are moral judgments. Our society is moving in the direction of trying to perfect man through law. The Bible says the letter of the law kills though. Law should be the basement level of human behavior--if you go through this basement standard, you will be restrained.

I admire people who make laws for themselves though--who restrain their food intake, who exercise every day, who don't eat after 7 PM. I regard the Old Testament in this way. I catch a vision of a perfect law of liberty. If I work a Sabbath into my life, I will benefit from it. If I follow Feasts that were established by God, I will grow and be nourished. I do not feel like I am trying to be righteous before God by adopting Hebrew law. I feel like I am seeking His face and his blessing.