PDA

View Full Version : ? about Noah & the Ark


BigBunny
May 30th, 2007, 09:34 AM
Hi everyone :wave

i believe that God created all animals - i hate it when i'm watching nature programs & the host will say something like 'this creature has evolved....' :gaah it's such an insult to God

when non-Christians ask me how could God of made all the animals & how could they fit all of them on the ark....i'm not too sure what to say :scratch
i wonder myself how did Noah get kangaroos on there as they are Australian.....though maybe the countries back then were all joined?

if anyone with more knowledge then me can help that'd be Great! :D

i enjoy watching David Attenboroughs shows, but he said that when he gets letters from people asking why he doesn't believe theres a God - he gives them the example of a worm that he saw in a young boys eye that was going to make him go blind. the sole purpose of this worm was to live off of a human (or maybe another living thing) & cause it to go blind. he said he doesn't believe an all loving God would create such a thing.

i don't think God created that worm....i think he made all the wonderful animals in the Garden of Eden & then when we were kicked out for disobeying him - we were seperated from him & were subject to death & other things that are destructive eg: ticks, fleas etc

what do you people think?

RefinedbyFire
May 30th, 2007, 12:13 PM
^Well, I know a Christian woman who has a lot of scientific knowledge (she actually taught biology), and she believes that the continents were, at one time before the Great Flood, all connected together like scientists believe. (If you look at South America and Africa, they do fit together like a puzzle piece).

So, consider that all the landmasses/continents were once connected, and God allowed over a hundred years (while Noah built the ark) for animals to be drawn to the ark. (If the Lord can control the locusts, He can certainly control the more intelligent creatures of the earth).

P.S. There are several creation/science websites, and museums that exist, that will have more information available.

BigBunny
May 30th, 2007, 12:17 PM
thanx for your reply RbF :)

i know that Australia has similar features to Africa - the land looks almost the same

KnightErrant
May 30th, 2007, 04:50 PM
I believe that in one of Tim Lahaye's earlier books he presented some calculations based on the Biblical dimensions for the Ark given in Genesis. Given that the average size for an animal is smaller than a sheep, they could have all fit on the Ark. But I would look the book up for yourself to see if you agree.

Munkh
May 30th, 2007, 10:40 PM
Check out this article on http://www.carm.org/questions/noahsark.htm


One issue that is often raised against Christianity is Noah's Ark and the Flood. Did it really happen? Did the flood really cover the whole world? Is there enough water on earth to cover all the land? Could the ark really hold two of every kind of animal in the world? Though these might be intimidating questions, the answer to each is a resounding, "Yes."

It has calculations for the number of animals and the space needed to house them very interesting

BigBunny
May 31st, 2007, 05:56 AM
Check out this article on http://www.carm.org/questions/noahsark.htm

One issue that is often raised against Christianity is Noah's Ark and the Flood. Did it really happen? Did the flood really cover the whole world? Is there enough water on earth to cover all the land? Could the ark really hold two of every kind of animal in the world? Though these might be intimidating questions, the answer to each is a resounding, "Yes."

It has calculations for the number of animals and the space needed to house them very interesting

thanx for posting :) i'm going to need this link :thumb

Veillifted
May 31st, 2007, 01:35 PM
I believe that in one of Tim Lahaye's earlier books he presented some calculations based on the Biblical dimensions for the Ark given in Genesis. Given that the average size for an animal is smaller than a sheep, they could have all fit on the Ark. But I would look the book up for yourself to see if you agree.

Khouse.org is Chuck Misslers site and he has some very interesting views on this as well.

The dimensions of the Ark would have given over 1,500,000 cubic feet of space over 3 stories high?? i forget ( or more i dont have the info handy) and the Ark contained most likely newborn species or younger species of animal such as Giraffe, Dinosaurs, Elephants ect instead of a full grown adult species of animal that logically make sense to save space.

Well ill just paste a portion for you:

http://www.khouse.org/articles/2004/504/print/


Was The Ark Big Enough?

Many people are skeptical about a literal ark having saved all the animals, etc. They are doubtful that it could have been big enough. (They don't really know how big it was, or how many animals were involved, but still they remain skeptical.)

The ark was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits abeam, and 30 cubits high. The cubit was a measure intended to represent the distance between the elbow and the tip of the fingers, and is approximated by most scholars at about 18 inches. (Various cubits have been discovered ranging from 17 to 25 inches.)

Assuming an 18-inch cubit, the ark would contain 1.5 million cubic feet, and would displace approximately 24,000 tons. This space approximates over 500 railroad cars and could contain 125,000 sheep or their equivalent. Since it has been estimated that there were about 18,000 species, and most of those would be smaller than a sheep, the space doesn't seem to be a real problem.

(Some scholars suggest that a 25-inch cubit might have been involved, which would almost triple that capacity.)

It is logical and makes a good argument that Noah wasnt in a 24ft cabin cruiser jetting around with a duck or two in the backseat :)

Also there is a little word play on what 2 of each type meant. Do a little research starting with Khouse.org and you will have more information to go on to draw your own conclusion.

flicka
May 31st, 2007, 01:48 PM
Genesis 10:25

And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

This was after the flood.