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RWSchilz
May 31st, 2007, 11:03 AM
Can water fuel the world?
Man looking for cancer cure hopes to solve energy crisis


By Joe Kovacs
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


Is the solution to America's energy needs as simple as a trip to the beach?
The idea is a fascinating one as a Florida man searching for a cancer cure may have stumbled onto a virtually limitless source of energy: salt water.

John Kanzius, 63, is a broadcast engineer who formerly owned several TV and radio stations, before retiring in Sanibel Island, Fla.
Five years ago, he was diagnosed with a severe form of leukemia, and began a quest to find a kinder, gentler way to treat the disease compared to harsh chemotherapy. In October 2003, he had an epiphany: kill cancer with radio waves. He then devised a machine that emits radio waves in an attempt to slay cancerous cells, while leaving healthy cells unharmed.
His experiments in fighting cancer have become so successful, one physician was quoted as saying, "We could be getting close to grabbing the Holy Grail."

But in the midst of his experiments as he was trying to take salt out of water, Kanzius discovered his machine could do what some may have thought was impossible: turning water into fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55934

He discovered a way to burn the Hydrogen in the salt water. Could be the most amazing discovery of our generation.:yeah

MoreThanReady
May 31st, 2007, 12:19 PM
I saw this and still didn't believe it.
This guy is about to become one of the riches people on earth :)

But it will be several years before this is made a viable energy production product. I also havn't seen anything that shows how much electricty is required to get the process started or how much power could be generated.
It might be a neat trick that works on a small scale but can't work on a large scale.

I think we need to take a wait and see attitude..

OH wouldn't it be neat if many of the worlds countries had salt water power plants, then in the Tribulation when the oceans turn to blood, power outages and in all the major countires of the world.

Bodude
May 31st, 2007, 01:21 PM
I don't think it's possible to get more energy out of the water than you put into it (via radio waves). It looks like a gee-whiz thing,but hardly a solution to our energy problems.

LoudRam
May 31st, 2007, 01:47 PM
If it works, either way he'll be rich. Either his invention will make him rich or the energy companies will pay him a ton of money to buy his invention so he doesn't market it.

zhan
June 4th, 2007, 03:35 AM
I don't think it's possible to get more energy out of the water than you put into it (via radio waves). It looks like a gee-whiz thing,but hardly a solution to our energy problems.

Heh, it's possible to get more out of uranium and plutonium than "we" put in it. It could be the potential was already there and he just found a way to tap it. Still, it's worth being very wary about. More often than not claims like this turn out to be outright lies.

Cameron
June 4th, 2007, 11:07 AM
Hmmmmmmm....can see the politicians already devising a plan to put a big tax on water if used for fuel.

Things we never dreamed of are now reality. Imagine trying to explain a computer or jet travel to your great, great grandfather. Or better yet telling him that one day we can talk across continents by a small device (cell phone) held in the hand.

He would probably think......:yeahright

Free in Christ
June 4th, 2007, 02:43 PM
This is one example of the power of a free economy. The American people are our greatest resource and, by God's grace, we will find an alternative fuel.

RWSchilz
June 4th, 2007, 04:12 PM
If there was a real problem Al Gore would have his arm around this guy claiming he found the cure to the world’s warming problem and then collect a carbon offset fee.:aha:yeah

csharpdotcom
June 5th, 2007, 02:26 PM
Heh, it's possible to get more out of uranium and plutonium than "we" put in it. It could be the potential was already there and he just found a way to tap it. Still, it's worth being very wary about. More often than not claims like this turn out to be outright lies.

The most stable combination of hydrogen and oxygen is of course H2O, so you can't get any energy out of it without putting energy in, such as electrolysis, which splits water back into hydrogen and oxygen, so you gain nothing. Water will react with some substances, such as sodium or fluorine, which are very reactive and energy will be released in the process. However, these and some other substances do not exist in their element form, and the energy used in obtaining them is more than cancels out the energy liberated in the reaction with water.

Concerning uranium and plutonium, yes, U-238 can capture a neutron to become Np-239 which then beta decays to Pu-239, which is how fast breeder reactors work. The energy released by the fission of U-235 to produce the neutrons is used to convert U-238 to Pu-239, so on the face of it you are putting energy in via the decay of U-235 to get plutonium, which enables you to get even more energy back. However, you are not getting something for nothing, as the energy is present all the time in U-238, it's just that it's not available until it is converted to plutonium.

The only way to get energy out of water is to cause fusion of the very small amount of the heavy isotope of hydrogen, call deuterium. In that case you would fuse with deuterium with itself, or with regular hydrogen, or even better with tritium, which is an even heaver but radioactive isotope of hydrogen. In the latter case tritium has to be obtained by other processes.

Sustained and controlled thermonuclear fusion is incredibily difficult, and billions are being spent on trying to get it to work.

LoudRam
June 5th, 2007, 03:21 PM
The most stable combination of hydrogen and oxygen is of course H2O, so you can't get any energy out of it without putting energy in, such as electrolysis, which splits water back into hydrogen and oxygen, so you gain nothing. Water will react with some substances, such as sodium or fluorine, which are very reactive and energy will be released in the process. However, these and some other substances do not exist in their element form, and the energy used in obtaining them is more than cancels out the energy liberated in the reaction with water.

Concerning uranium and plutonium, yes, U-238 can capture a neutron to become Np-239 which then beta decays to Pu-239, which is how fast breeder reactors work. The energy released by the fission of U-235 to produce the neutrons is used to convert U-238 to Pu-239, so on the face of it you are putting energy in via the decay of U-235 to get plutonium, which enables you to get even more energy back. However, you are not getting something for nothing, as the energy is present all the time in U-238, it's just that it's not available until it is converted to plutonium.

The only way to get energy out of water is to cause fusion of the very small amount of the heavy isotope of hydrogen, call deuterium. In that case you would fuse with deuterium with itself, or with regular hydrogen, or even better with tritium, which is an even heaver but radioactive isotope of hydrogen. In the latter case tritium has to be obtained by other processes.

Sustained and controlled thermonuclear fusion is incredibily difficult, and billions are being spent on trying to get it to work.

We all get our hopes up and you have to dash them by getting all technical on us.:mope