View Full Version : Jan Markell and David Hocking on John Hagee and his Dual Covenant Theology
Berean Girl
March 13th, 2008, 06:03 PM
March 8, 2008 - Hour 1
David Hocking, radio commentator, author and expert on all things related to Israel, joins Jan for a discussion of the topic. The theology called "Dual Covenant Theology" is examined and called heretical, though a few of our most prominent televangelists teach this. Many ministries serving in Israel "love the Jews to death" by withholding the gospel from them. And why is she continually scolded for trying to protect herself? www.davidhocking.org
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seekingtruth1
March 13th, 2008, 09:47 PM
hi - what other TV preachers besided Hagee preach Dual covenant theology? This is a big reason my church DISSES teh premill position b/c nuts say Jews go to heaven apart from teh atonement.
A Berean
March 13th, 2008, 09:57 PM
It tells me that John Hagee is a false teacher, a false prophet, and needs to repent:preach.
"Your church" is following "Doctrines of Demons", and you need to :runhills TODAY, and never look back! As you know dear Sister:hug, you can ALWAYS PM me for further information, precious one in our Lord Jesus Christ:thumb!
terrilynn
March 13th, 2008, 10:28 PM
I AM SO SICK OF THIS!!! Again, I am a member of CornerStone Church where John Hagee is pastor. If he preached or taught dual covenant I would know. My husband is a leader in the church . Pastor Hagee DOES NOT BELIEVE, TEACH, OR PREACH dual covenant. If Pastor Hagee preached dual covenant I and my family would be gone in a second. I know by experience that you cannot believe everything you read in a book, or on the internet---so I always find it prudent to check facts before I believe anything. I think that is good advice for the all of you to follow also. Pastor Hagee is one of the best Bible teachers or preachers I have ever had the privilege to be under, and I praise the Lord everyday for the blessing he is to me and my family.
seekingtruth1
March 13th, 2008, 11:09 PM
YOU are a SWEETIE Pumpkin!:hug:)
It tells me that John Hagee is a false teacher, a false prophet, and needs to repent:preach.
"Your church" is following "Doctrines of Demons", and you need to :runhills TODAY, and never look back! As you know dear Sister:hug, you can ALWAYS PM me for further information, precious one in our Lord Jesus Christ:thumb!
seekingtruth1
March 13th, 2008, 11:13 PM
Hi that is good to hear. i dont knwo the detaisl of that but that he has goen back and forth on it or so it seems. Maybe we are wrong. Anyway i do see that he doesnt seem to promote to his Jewish friends their need to belive in Jesus....can you elaborate or let me knwo if what you have seen is different?
Alot of people think thsi about Hagee...Im not surw why but I woudl imagine there is something to why people are thinking this. It could be ist all false I dont know....
I have always felt Hagee has been used by the Political elite willingly or not, to futher their control in Isreal by using the Christians....
I AM SO SICK OF THIS!!! Again, I am a member of CornerStone Church where John Hagee is pastor. If he preached or taught dual covenant I would know. My husband is a leader in the church . Pastor Hagee DOES NOT BELIEVE, TEACH, OR PREACH dual covenant. If Pastor Hagee preached dual covenant I and my family would be gone in a second. I know by experience that you cannot believe everything you read in a book, or on the internet---so I always find it prudent to check facts before I believe anything. I think that is good advice for the all of you to follow also. Pastor Hagee is one of the best Bible teachers or preachers I have ever had the privilege to be under, and I praise the Lord everyday for the blessing he is to me and my family.
AnnOdom44
March 14th, 2008, 01:52 AM
Someone who read his latest book said that he has written this in the book. Regardless, I heard him say, with my own ears, that Jesus was wealthy. That certainly doesn't line up with what the Bible says and is what the W.O.F. preachers teach. Haven't watched his program since I heard that. Yes, he needs to repent of his false teachings.
terrilynn
March 14th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Someone who read his latest book said that he has written this in the book. Regardless, I heard him say, with my own ears, that Jesus was wealthy. That certainly doesn't line up with what the Bible says and is what the W.O.F. preachers teach. Haven't watched his program since I heard that. Yes, he needs to repent of his false teachings.
No, he did not say Jews did not need to be saved just like Gentiles. I read the book several times before and after the controversey started. I never read or got the impression he was saying Jews did not need the Lord. Since then he has stated publically and on his website that the chapter in question would be re-written in order for that to be made more clear. I believe people wanted to have something to critisize so they read into the chapter what they wanted. Again, I have been a member of the church for many years, never once hearing a message about Jesus being rich and matter-of-fact just heard a message at Christmas time of the lowliness of Jesus birth and life. I have commented many times on WOF business---but for clarification John Hagee is not WOF.
I have decided, I will not comment any more when falsehoods are spread on this forum about my pastor. I have commented and commented and that has not changed one thing. People want to believe the worse, so of course, that is their perogative. The addage "if you cannot say something nice do not say anything at all" comes to mind--and I believe some on this forum should take that to heart, myself included.
tjplaw
March 14th, 2008, 10:59 AM
No, he did not say Jews did not need to be saved just like Gentiles. I read the book several times before and after the controversy started. I never read or got the impression he was saying Jews did not need the Lord. Since then he has stated publically and on his website that the chapter in question would be re-written in order for that to be made more clear. I believe people wanted to have something to criticize so they read into the chapter what they wanted. Again, I have been a member of the church for many years, never once hearing a message about Jesus being rich and matter-of-fact just heard a message at Christmas time of the lowliness of Jesus birth and life. I have commented many times on WOF business---but for clarification John Hagee is not WOF.
I have decided, I will not comment any more when falsehoods are spread on this forum about my pastor. I have commented and commented and that has not changed one thing. People want to believe the worse, so of course, that is their perogative. The addage "if you cannot say something nice do not say anything at all" comes to mind--and I believe some on this forum should take that to heart, myself included.
Thank you for clarification on this, someone who actually read the book.
Final Trumpet
March 14th, 2008, 11:55 AM
Sorry, it does not take much searching for info on what Hagee teaches and promotes to see his ways. He hangs out with the WoF heretics and teaches part of their apostasy. I find it sad that some are not willing to open their eyes to see it. Follow after Christ and His Word, not some man and his teachings.
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