View Full Version : Which Doctrine is the Correct one
CelticMist
June 2nd, 2007, 03:06 PM
One vote, One Voice
Saved by Grace_06
June 2nd, 2007, 03:24 PM
LOL! You put "God's Holy Bible" as if all Christians who understand it different, whether Pelagain or Semi Pelagian or Calvinist, or Arminian (modern day semi pelagain) would not all say that they have the right understanding of scripture. Even cults like JWs and Mormons and Rastafarians, would say they get their teachings from the Bible. So then, who has the right understanding of scripture? Here's how you can tell, in my opinion:
Which has the most Christ exulting and God-centered view of scripture?
CelticMist
June 2nd, 2007, 03:25 PM
LOL! You put "God's Holy Bible" as if all Christians who understand it different, whether Pelagain or Semi Pelagian or Calvinist, or Arminian (modern day semi pelagain) would not all say that they have the right understanding of scripture. Even cults like JWs and Mormons and Rastafarians, would say they get their teachings from the Bible. So then, who has the right understanding of scripture? Here's how you can tell, in my opinion:
Which has the most Christ exulting and God-centered view of scripture?
Exactly I put God's Holy Bible... cause it is the ONLY correct DOCTRINE.. notice all others listed are merely man made ...extractions take from God's ONLY DOCTRINE to make up their doctrine.
Noticed you didn't cast a vote either.. why is that?
Saved by Grace_06
June 2nd, 2007, 03:34 PM
Exactly I put God's Holy Bible... cause it is the ONLY correct DOCTRINE.. notice all others listed are merely man made ...
Notcied you didn't cast a vote either.. why is that?
You missed the point, bro. YES, the Bible is the ONLY Truth! No one is disputing that. The three basic kinds of Christians though: Calvinist, Semi Pelagain, and Arminians, all have different understandings of the Bible (which alone is true). So then, who is right? That's what you need to find out and thats why your post isnt making much sense. As for my vote though. I believe the Calvinist have the correct expostion of scripture. I'm surely not saying that the Calvinist are better, or anymore Christian than other Christians, only that they have the right understanding of what God's word says.
CelticMist
June 2nd, 2007, 03:40 PM
You missed the point, bro. YES, the Bible is the ONLY Truth! No one is disputing that. The three basic kinds of Christians though: Calvinist, Semi Pelagain, and Arminians, all have different understandings of the Bible (which alone is true). So then, who is right? That's what you need to find out and thats why your post isnt making much sense. As for my vote though. I believe the Calvinist have the correct expostion of scripture. I'm surely not saying that the Calvinist are better, or anymore Christian than other Christians, only that they have the right understanding of what God's word says.
No I think you've missed the point.. you and your Calvinist views... this poll is on which DOCTRINE is correct.... because "bro" I want to see who claims God's Holy Word as all TRUTH... since it is ALL TRUTH.....these others are merely man made... their "viewpoints" of what God's DOCTRINE says. WE are NOT to add to nor take away, correct?
Again, why have you yet voted? Would it be because you would have to see what God's Holy Bible truly is.. the one and only correct DOCTRINE we are to follow? Not some doctrine "modern" day men put together based on their "understanding"?
It doesn't make sense to you because you are so wrapped up in following John Calvin... how sad!!!!
Saved by Grace_06
June 2nd, 2007, 03:50 PM
No I think you've missed the point.. you and your Calvinist views... this poll is on which DOCTRINE is correct.... because "bro" I want to see who claims God's Holy Word as all TRUTH... since it is ALL TRUTH.....these others are merely man made... their "viewpoints" of what God's DOCTRINE says. WE are NOT to add to nor take away, correct?
Again, why have you yet voted? Would it be because you would have to see what God's Holy Bible truly is.. the one and only correct DOCTRINE we are to follow? Not some doctrine "modern" day men put together based on their "understanding"?
Whoa! OK. Um...Would it help if I said that the Calvinist' understanding of scripture is the oldest, as well as the historical and orthodox view of the Bible; going back to the time of Agustine and the Apostle Paul before him? If most of Christianity, since the religion began till now, understood the bible to say what the Calvinist are saying, why would you try to differentiate between Calvinism and the Bible? Forget the name Calvinism and just study the doctrines to see if it is what the Bible teaches. I believe if you do, you'll say with C.H. Spurgeon, "Calvinism is only a nick name for the gospel."
BlessedinHim
June 2nd, 2007, 04:02 PM
Ahhhh, that explains a lot of what is going on here. I dont go by what anyone says about what they believe the bible to say. I go back to the scripture and search it out myself with the help of the Holy Spirit as my guide. Not saying I fully understand a lot, but I do believe I got the basics and the most important part. No one denomination has it all correct. It is up to each individual to answer the berean call and search the scriptures daily to see if what is preached and taught is true. I feel soooo much better now. This has answered my question that has been looming on edge.
I voted the Bible is true, let all men be liars if what they say doesnt say what the bible says.
CelticMist
June 2nd, 2007, 04:08 PM
Because John Calvin didn't write the MAIN DOCTRINE.... God inspired the men and women of the books of His doctrine. Also there are many flaws in the Calvinist viewpoint that's why.
John Calvin's viewpoint came during the Reformation period. His was the one that was more organized than any other. But, its his viewpoints.. that you are leading your life on. In one of your post you said it was "the correct one"... hence the reasoning for this poll. When humans put their trust in a man made doctrinal view, they are lacking the true teaching from God's Spirit to teach them.
Can you eliminate the Calvinist views when questions are abut God's Word. Instead of spewing Calvin's viewpoints... can you speak with the Spirit speaking through you?
We are told not to add to nor take away.
How can you say that "Calvinism is a nick name for the gospel".... isn't this blasphemy?????
CelticMist
June 2nd, 2007, 04:09 PM
Ahhhh, that explains a lot of what is going on here. I dont go by what anyone says about what they believe the bible to say. I go back to the scripture and search it out myself with the help of the Holy Spirit as my guide. Not saying I fully understand a lot, but I do believe I got the basics and the most important part. No one denomination has it all correct. It is up to each individual to answer the berean call and search the scriptures daily to see if what is preached and taught is true. I feel soooo much better now. This has answered my question that has been looming on edge.
I voted the Bible is true, let all men be liars if what they say doesnt say what the bible says.
Amen blessedinhim AMEN:thumb
Saved by Grace_06
June 2nd, 2007, 04:20 PM
Because John Calvin didn't write the MAIN DOCTRINE.... God inspired the men and women of the books of His doctrine. Also there are many flaws in the Calvinist viewpoint that's why.
John Calvin's viewpoint came during the Reformation period. His was the one that was more organized than any other. But, its his viewpoints.. that you are leading your life on. In one of your post you said it was "the correct one"... hence the reasoning for this poll. When humans put their trust in a man made doctrinal view, they are lacking the true teaching from God's Spirit to teach them.
Can you eliminate the Calvinist views when questions are abut God's Word. Instead of spewing Calvin's viewpoints... can you speak with the Spirit speaking through you?
We are told not to add to nor take away.
How can you say that "Calvinism is a nick name for the gospel".... isn't this blasphemy?????
How come people who don't believe in Calvinism seem so angry and...I kind of dont want to say, but here I go anyway - "Un-Christian?" You sound like Dave Hunt, just mean and bitter and angry for no reason. Why do I feel like you would persecute me and burn me at the stake if I were close to you? I'm a bit worried, sir! What about this doctrine gets you so mad? That I said that God has mercy on whom he wills? That he saves people for His name's sake? That he leaves people in their sin and free will choices to hate him and then punishes them for it? That he saves some equally God hating sinners to display his mercy and grace? That men are born in sin and born God haters and therefore never ever choose Christ or seek to find God? That God does whatever he wants? That he allowed the fall of man for his own glory? What is it? By the way, Calvinism predates Calvin. But, I'm sure you knew that? Probably?
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