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billiefan2000
March 25th, 2008, 05:31 PM
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McChurch Offers 30-Minute Church Service—Because It’s All About You!


Circus Church, Emerging Church, Megachurch Follies

Mike Huckabee’s church, the Church at Rock Creek in Little Rock, Arkansas, is advertising its 30-minute church service “designed with you in mind”.



http://www.churchatrockcreek.org/rockcreekthirty.htm

Remember the time when church services were designed with God in mind? It seems like a long, long time ago.

They break the service down for those who might still be hesitant about attending church.

For 8 minutes, they promise that you’ll have “contemporary worship with the Rock Creek Band and Singers”,


then there’s the 15-minute message which they say is “focused” and “practical” with “life principles you can use now”.

Then they allot 5 minutes for “involvement” which means prayer and offerings have to fit in that slot.

Why all the hurry?


Their advertising says it all.

“Have more on your to-do list than time to do it?

Need to jump start your week with a high energy focus on God? Your time is valuable. Make the most of it with the Rock Creek 30″.

This is Rick Warren’s church movement in its purest form.

Man at the center. The Church at Rock Creek is a Purpose-Driven church showcase.

It’s all about you, every bit of it. Your time is valuable.

Toss a few crumbs at God. His time isn’t nearly as important as yours. His worship, His honor, His majesty,

His power, His mercy, His justice are irrelevant. What’s important is the great god, You.

How many of these pastors would treat a modern day monarch in this fashion?

Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II invites them to a state dinner that will last two hours.

They respond: “Sorry, your, er, Majesty.

Our time is important. We have to-do lists and not enough time. We’ll talk to you for five minutes.

The rest will have to fit into 25 more minutes and we’re outta there.


We just want to jump start our week by hanging around royalty for a minute. Then it’s off to more important things.”

Unthinkable.

Now imagine treating the King of Kings in this fashion. That’s what they’re doing.

We view idolaters as men and women in grass huts bowing low over a carved figure on an altar.

How foolish to limit our ideas of idolatry to that.

Man is “God” now.

Man the creator, Man the predestinator, Man the savior.

Man the beautiful.

Man the hope of the world.


We love ourselves, pamper ourselves, preen before mirrors to see we have the right look of the moment.

We take God and dethrone Him in our minds.


We refuse to bow before Him in humility.


We will not be bothered to sacrifice even an hour of our precious time for Him.

We relegate our prayer time to Him to less than five minutes in “church” services like this and openly admit its because our time is valuable.


There is no shame.

As God gives more and more evangelicals over to spiritual blindness because of their rebellion, we’re going to see more and more absurdity carried out in God’s name.

Identify it and realize how truly wicked it is to treat the Lord of Heaven in this manner.

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

–Isaiah 44:6


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billiefan2000
March 26th, 2008, 11:11 AM
http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=544

McChurch Offers 30-Minute Church Service—Because It’s All About You!


Circus Church, Emerging Church, Megachurch Follies

Mike Huckabee’s church, the Church at Rock Creek in Little Rock, Arkansas, is advertising its 30-minute church service “designed with you in mind”.



http://www.churchatrockcreek.org/rockcreekthirty.htm

Remember the time when church services were designed with God in mind? It seems like a long, long time ago.

They break the service down for those who might still be hesitant about attending church.

For 8 minutes, they promise that you’ll have “contemporary worship with the Rock Creek Band and Singers”,


then there’s the 15-minute message which they say is “focused” and “practical” with “life principles you can use now”.

Then they allot 5 minutes for “involvement” which means prayer and offerings have to fit in that slot.

Why all the hurry?


Their advertising says it all.

“Have more on your to-do list than time to do it?

Need to jump start your week with a high energy focus on God? Your time is valuable. Make the most of it with the Rock Creek 30″.

This is Rick Warren’s church movement in its purest form.

Man at the center. The Church at Rock Creek is a Purpose-Driven church showcase.

It’s all about you, every bit of it. Your time is valuable.

Toss a few crumbs at God. His time isn’t nearly as important as yours. His worship, His honor, His majesty,

His power, His mercy, His justice are irrelevant. What’s important is the great god, You.

How many of these pastors would treat a modern day monarch in this fashion?

Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II invites them to a state dinner that will last two hours.

They respond: “Sorry, your, er, Majesty.

Our time is important. We have to-do lists and not enough time. We’ll talk to you for five minutes.

The rest will have to fit into 25 more minutes and we’re outta there.


We just want to jump start our week by hanging around royalty for a minute. Then it’s off to more important things.”

Unthinkable.

Now imagine treating the King of Kings in this fashion. That’s what they’re doing.

We view idolaters as men and women in grass huts bowing low over a carved figure on an altar.

How foolish to limit our ideas of idolatry to that.

Man is “God” now.

Man the creator, Man the predestinator, Man the savior.

Man the beautiful.

Man the hope of the world.


We love ourselves, pamper ourselves, preen before mirrors to see we have the right look of the moment.

We take God and dethrone Him in our minds.


We refuse to bow before Him in humility.


We will not be bothered to sacrifice even an hour of our precious time for Him.

We relegate our prayer time to Him to less than five minutes in “church” services like this and openly admit its because our time is valuable.


There is no shame.

As God gives more and more evangelicals over to spiritual blindness because of their rebellion, we’re going to see more and more absurdity carried out in God’s name.

Identify it and realize how truly wicked it is to treat the Lord of Heaven in this manner.

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

–Isaiah 44:6


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http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=547



Hey Ingrid, long time reader, first time writer, keep it up!


Just wanted to let you know that I checked out the homepage of Church at Rock Creek and found the new sermon

entitled Toxic People, a three week study.


It sounded familiar and then I did a quick search and came up with something very interesting.


(This won’t surprise you) but, apparently, they copied Rick Warren’s sermon

and splashed on some new graphic design to fool people into

thinking that the pastor came up with it on his own.


http://www.saddlebackresources.com/en-US/Sermons/AllSermonSeries/193HandlingToxicPeople.htm


Ha! I remembered the title only because I was at another megachurch and heard this exact same sermon “preached” on.


least Johnathon Edwards had the scholarly decency to write his own sermons. Anyway, thought I’d point it out so you can see the true shallow pathetic nature of this “movement”.


L.



(Ingrid's response):

Yes, L., sermon recycling is a common practice these days as men like Rick Warren offer sermons for purchase on their websites.


Today’s pastor can order a turnkey ministry online with Rick Warren’s sermons, movie excerpts from WingClips.com,


and canned music if he doesn’t have a hot band to play Sunday morning.

I heard from one reader on Monday whose pastor read an entire sermon from the pulpit Sunday as his own.

The problem was, it was written by a nationally known Bible teacher.

They borrow one another’s words, it says of the false prophets in Jeremiah 23.

Pastors today do this when they have nothing to say from the mouth of the Lord.

They’re not in contact with God and that’s why they have to take their sermons from one another.


The spiritual fruit of this kind of leadership is everywhere in our carnal churches.

Cloud Watcher
March 26th, 2008, 12:38 PM
:wha:ohno:tsk








Why bother to drive to church at all? This is appalling!

billiefan2000
March 26th, 2008, 12:42 PM
cloudwatcher I agree

this is appalling what this church is doing

Biblenuggetlady
March 26th, 2008, 01:09 PM
A church in our area offerred drive in services in the summer, complete with the speaker that attaches to your car window so you don't have to get out of the car in your swim suits and sandals you're wearing on your way to the beach. The only thing they need now is a drive up window where you can order your service by the number. I can see it now...I'll take the #1 Service, hold the worship and communion or I'll take the #2 service extra worship hold the sermon.... :doh

PS, yes this is a PDL church.

saved by Grace
March 27th, 2008, 01:57 AM
good grief :twitch:doh

Constantine I
March 27th, 2008, 03:03 AM
This is blasphemy! This is madness!

JustinSolo
March 27th, 2008, 08:56 AM
What gives???? Like their "long" service will kill you. THAT one is only 1 hour. Oh please. You might as well stay home and keep your 30 minutes.

Pleye
March 28th, 2008, 01:03 PM
A church in our area offerred drive in services in the summer, complete with the speaker that attaches to your car window so you don't have to get out of the car in your swim suits and sandals you're wearing on your way to the beach. The only thing they need now is a drive up window where you can order your service by the number. I can see it now...I'll take the #1 Service, hold the worship and communion or I'll take the #2 service extra worship hold the sermon.... :doh

PS, yes this is a PDL church.

This is an old Robert Schuller trick. I watched a documentary on him and he did the "drive-in" services for a while. He also did them while standing on top of a boat with a loud horn for people at beaches, on vacation. I forget the whole story. But even the drive-in church is just recycled junk. It appears no one has an original idea anymore.

Now, if I have to listen to one of these canned sermons again where the pastor downloads it from Warren's pastors.com and then has the nerve to tell me we have to be open to the moving of the Spirit, I'm going toyell at him afterwards.

PS. Regarding McChurch. Hold the pickles.

susanb
March 29th, 2008, 01:16 AM
My former PD pastor did a S.H.A.P.E. sermon series and said HE wrote the sermons and came up with the acrostics. (S=Spiritual Gifts, H-Heart/Motivation, A=Abilities, P=Personality, E=Experiences)

At the time I didn't know anything about the Rick Warren sermon-selling, money-making racket. It was quite an eye-opener for me when I realized my pastor had lied to me.