Oneness Pentecostalism

[RocketGirl]

Are oneness pentecostals considered lost even though they have trusted in Jesus as their Savior?

[funmudder]

Only by trusting in Christ alone for salvation is a person saved. Bottom line.
I would not say they are lost, but perhaps left to question their salvation because they are not recieving gifts of the Holy Spirit like the mere mortal leaders tell them they should be. How sad and lonely would a person be to accept Christ Jesus as their savior and then not get all the bells and whistles they were told would come upon them? Would they feel rejected by God? Pressure to 'manifest' gifts to prove their salvation to those around them?

Membership in any denomination matters not one whit. There are people in every denomination across the board that are saved because of this faith in Christ, and sadly there are many in every denomination across the board that are not saved. Church membership or affiliation does not determine salvation.

Any denomination that declares themselves the owners of the "real" truth I would have to take a skeptical look at, and I think oneness pentacostal makes that claim?
Why would the Lord wait 2000 year to 'reveal' the 'real' truth to a couple of American gentiles, when we have had His Holy Scripture for thousands of years? That illogical don't you think? Ego centric?

What does scripture say? and how does it line up with Oneness Pentecostal theology? Where does it differ? Are the differnces in line with all of scripture, or do they start to contradict?

1. Is Jesus His own Father?
2. If Jesus' will and the Father's will were identical, then why did Jesus express the desire to escape the cup but resigns Himself not to His own will, but the will of the Father? Mat 26:39 and Mat 26:42
3. Was Jesus praying to Himself in the Garden of Gethsemane?
4. If Jesus was praying to the divine side of Himself, then isn't He still praying to Himself?
5. Why was Jesus not saying, "Not My will, but MY will be done?" if there is only one person and one will involved when He was praying in Luke 22:42 & Matt. 26:39.
6. If baptism is essential for salvation, then what happens to someone who repents of sin, accepts Jesus as Savior, walks across the street to get baptized but is killed by a car. Does he go to heaven or hell?
1. If he goes to heaven, then baptism isn't a requirement is it?
2. If he goes to hell, then faith in Christ isn't sufficient to save him is it?
But scripture tells us its by faith in Christ we are justified (Gal 2:16). Water baptism is an outward sign to the world you have been washed clean, it's not a prerequisite to enter heaven.
7. Since the Bible teaches us that Jesus is in bodily form now (Col. 2:9), then how does the Oneness Pentecostal person maintain that God is in the form of the Holy Spirit? Also, when Jesus returns, will He return in His body? Will God's form then revert to the form of the Son at a later date?
8. If God is only one person, why did Jesus say in John 14:23, "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." If God is only one person, why does Jesus say, "we"?
9. Oneness theology teaches that God was in the mode of the Father in the Old Testament. God was seen in the OT (not as a vision or a dream or an angel in the following verses: Exo. 6:2-3; Gen. 19:24; Num. 12:6-8). But, Jesus said no one has seen the Father (John 6:46). If they were seeing God Almighty (Exo. 6:2-3) but it wasn't the Father, then who was it?

[blitzkreig]

Are oneness pentecostals considered lost even though they have trusted in Jesus as their Savior?But they for the most part haven't.

The "oneness" bunch is a cult. They deny the Trinity among other heresies. They are all about experience and not faith and belief.

In the end I will leave it to God ... because the fact is that if any are saved ... it isn't due to the "Oneness cult" ...but to the simple Grace of God and to His Glory ... in spite of the Pentecostal cults and TV evangelists.

The rest better like hot water ... really really hot water ...

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[For-Knowledge]

I am a firm believer in the feast of Pentecost, and so is God. For it was then that He decided to send the Holy Spirit back to earth to regenerate and empower mankind unto salvation.

If there was a "religion" that I could truly say God was a part of, I'de have no choice but to call God a Pentecostal. Yep, I said it :)

I am proud to call myself a Pentecostal. And I thank God each and every night for "keeping the feast" of Pentecost. Thank God he indeed kept the feast by sending the comforter back to planet Earth. Oh what a refreshing it is!

Now the oneness issue is another story. To me that's irrelevant. I could care less what organized religious groups say and do. I however, am just so thankful God fulfilled his part of the bargain and "kept the feast"!!!!!!! And for that reason alone, I will always call myself a Pentecostal. If Pentecost was good enough for the early church, then it sure is good enough for me. And if Jesus decides to rapture the church on the feast of Pentecost, then that will be all the more reason to call myself a Pentecostal :nod

[iLoveJesusChristAmen]

I and My Father are ONE. john 10:30 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. john 4:24 for there are three that bear witness in heaven; the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are ONE. 1 john 5:7 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. john 1:1 and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us john 1:14

[firstlove]

I am a Pentecostal too=but the UPC does have some problems-but they are saved-for they trust Christ.

[BlackSchnauzer]

What does it mean when it says In the beggining Was the Word. Jesus has always been.
Any insight would be awesome.:thumbup

[Guy4God]

And if Jesus decides to rapture the church on the feast of Pentecost, then that will be all the more reason to call myself a Pentecostal

:thumbup Good point! I'm a pentecostal too...maybe even more than I think...

[LivingbyFaith]

Are oneness pentecostals considered lost even though they have trusted in Jesus as their Savior?

If you're baseing your salvation(even in part) on your religion,or works,or on ANY thing other than the person of Jesus and on the finished work on the cross-where Jesus paid entirely for your sins-past,present and future,in whole,then you are not truely saved.
Our faith needs to be based entirely on Jesus and His substitutionary death upon the cross where He was the perfect,sinless sacrifice for the sins of all of mankind.
Some religions try to keep people under the bondage of the law,or man-made rules and/or try to falsely teach that you must speak in tongues,or be baptized(in order to be saved)or that you can lose your salvation once you have been truely been born again-this is all false,because if you're basing your salvation on things like this,then it's not based entirely on the person and the finished work of Jesus.
I don't think alot of people realize the magnitude of what was done on the cross,I'm not sure if we can truely comprehend the fullness of it until we are home,but one thing that is very true,is that the blood that was shed by our Saviour that day is powerful enough and is sufficient in and of itself. When anyone suggests otherwise,they are spreading a lie from the enemy of our souls.

[firstlove]

I think that--YOU CAN Leave your salvation-once you've been born again-and I am SAVED! Praise His Name.