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m2pinggggggg
April 5th, 2008, 04:51 PM
My brothers and sisters!

Have you experienced end time messages in your Churches? It seems that we are having more sermons to heal us of our ugliness, and heal us from our years of being hurt ( a lot of times self-inflicted )not agreeing with pastors, staff and elders on things that the Holy Spirit could correct in your or my minds if we just prayed about it. regardless, we are not even discussing anything about these days! Amazing! Our Church will be talking on giving for the next 4 weeks. By the way, if you're having a hard time giving to Jesus, just write out "We will trust You Jesus ! " on an envelope for 20 weeks! 5- 10 dollars added every week for 20 weeks will get rid of the not trusting. Thats about a half to 1 percent increase every week. Hard to do if we're in bondage as a earth dweller though. Anyway back to Churches not watching or caring about anything future. Pray about it, talk to your pastors, and move on to a Church that does! We were at our previous Church for thirty years. Left it! Now at this Church and not getting hardly anything in life groups or Church! Loving the people and staff....but still not finding comfort in many things we grew up with in Church. Been thinking about visiting a Church on Saturday nights, and then having Church in smaller setting. Giving away 82 % to ministries and having 18 percent left to give could be reversed instead of spending it on men who can't supplement their incomes with tent making.:thumb

Waiting...
April 5th, 2008, 05:13 PM
Yep! This is why we left our former church just two weeks ago. In five years, not one message on the return of Jesus. I think pastors feel that if we focus on the return of Jesus, we will "forget about building the kingdom now". That was a direct quote from former pastor. As a result, they have one less family in the church.

lilbitsyspider
April 5th, 2008, 05:44 PM
Yep! This is why we left our former church just two weeks ago. In five years, not one message on the return of Jesus. I think pastors feel that if we focus on the return of Jesus, we will "forget about building the kingdom now". That was a direct quote from former pastor. As a result, they have one less family in the church.

I think since most people only focus on the here and now, prophecy to most should stay out of the sermon. But that's just silly since Jesus is supposed to return.

ImOnStandby221
April 5th, 2008, 08:03 PM
this is becomming so commonplace now. churches just refuse to teach about the end times because as someone once said to me, "there are just too many different interpretations". so we refuse to study just because the subject is tricky? i guess it's easier just to sit around and talk about our self-esteem. where are the Bereans?

Dreams of Rising
April 5th, 2008, 10:06 PM
I think that ALL topics should be secondary to sharing the Good News and getting folks saved in the first place. Save the hot-topic talks for Sunday School, Men's and Women's groups, times like that.

I also believe that this rush to "church of self" or "feel-good-ism" is written - it is part of the "falling away" spoken of in the End Times.

:thinking What I do know for sure is that by putting the Gospel and winning of souls FIRST - we'll find our way on those other topics. At least we'll have a lot more minds working on it, anyways! :scratch:twitch:idunno:lol2:wave

Biblenuggetlady
April 5th, 2008, 10:25 PM
We don't even go to church anymore. Never mind the missing prophecy teachings, we couldn't hear a Biblical message at all! :doh

:pray

denny272
April 5th, 2008, 11:15 PM
We don't even go to church anymore. Never mind the missing prophecy teachings, we couldn't hear a Biblical message at all! :doh

:pray

:thumb

Mulligan
April 5th, 2008, 11:21 PM
We don't even go to church anymore. Never mind the missing prophecy teachings, we couldn't hear a Biblical message at all! :doh

:pray

Sadly, same here. The internet is full of great prophesy teachers, however. There are some really great ministries out there, they just don't happen to be where I live. I'd like to find one though. :hat

SummerSailing81
April 6th, 2008, 03:05 AM
Sadly, same here. The internet is full of great prophesy teachers, however. There are some really great ministries out there, they just don't happen to be where I live. I'd like to find one though. :hat

I'm another of the unchurched. I have a serious problem attending a church where the pastor, although he wasn't preaching WOF theology himself, he allows the teachings of the likes of Joyce Meyer, Myles Munro, Beth Moore, etc. to be taught in the Ladies' Bible Study. I had a bad feeling about continuing to attend this AoG church when the pastor called Kenneth Hagin "the father of the faith movement", overheard his wife saying they had attended a Morris Cerullo meeting some years ago, but when the pastor himself said from the pulpit that Marilyn Hickey was called to preach, that was when I headed for the exit and didn't go back.

ImOnStandby221
April 6th, 2008, 05:24 AM
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