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billiefan2000
April 15th, 2008, 11:43 AM
http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=609


ABC News: Christian S-x: Holy and Hot

I have abbreviated the headline so that those with filters won’t have the post blocked.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4651272&page=1

Yes, it’s really that bad now.


This morning I was sifting through a raft of incoming news alert emails that detailed the perilous state of the American economy with jobs being slashed across the country,


the new terrorism threats, the continuing societal breakdown that has damaged the lives of countless millions of children in America’s cities, and so forth and so on.

Enter the Christians.



The headline on ABC News this morning read this way:



Christian S-x: Holy and Hot

That’s right. The same type of churches that have brought you Superhero Jesus on Easter Sunday,

Hollywood actors in the pulpit, and Van Halen as


worship music are making headlines for their hot s-x seminars, books, etc.


No wonder Christians are such a laughingstock today in the eyes of the world.


We have *****cat Preacher, Heather Veitch, strutting her stuff for Jesus at porno conventions and issuing press releases to the media about how she’s “reaching” people.



(She certainly may be doing that, but it wouldn’t be for Jesus with her sleazy attire and unchanged stripper demeanor.)


Now it’s our new Dionysian evangelicals who make headlines for their quest for ever hotter s-x.



Hireling pastors who are so lazy, dishonest and biblically illiterate

that they have to rip off sermons from Internet sites and download movie


clips to keep their goats entertained


are now featuring s-x talks on Sunday morning complete with songs like Rod Stewart’s “Hot in the City Tonight”

pounding over the loudspeakers at their “churches”.



The Christians in the Roman coliseum who were torn apart by lions apparently died so pastors in 2008 could wave sex toys

around in the pulpit and boast about how hot their wives are in the sack.


2000 years of church history and in the West, it comes down to this.


I just watched a video of a secular female radio host addressing the pornification of America before a group of reporters.


She preached a better sermon on what’s going on in our culture then most evangelical pastors today are capable, and that is pathetic.




In every way, rather than influence the culture around it,


the evangelical church has been the one to be influenced by the culture.



The pornification of America is now having its effect on the church with the ever more titillating, coarse, sensual and fleshly handling of what God has ordained as holy and sacred.

In the name of Christian freedom,


licentiousness is now the order of the day, bringing shame on the name and true cause of Jesus Christ.


True believers will run from this, knowing that it will not stop here.


We will live to see a day when the growing sensuality of the false church


will result in unimaginable immorality, all done in Christ’s name.


When God Himself is mocked and blasphemed by those calling themselves believers, He gives such people over to reprobate minds.

When flesh is king, and not the Lord Jesus Christ, there is no limit to the depth to which man will sink in his “religion”.


http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=609

FaithContender
April 15th, 2008, 05:17 PM
Yeah, I read that article this morning, and it really bothered me. :tsk

Gabby
April 15th, 2008, 05:23 PM
From the article:

Home pastors Paul and Lori Byerly of Salem, Ore., dispense more sex advice than Playboy magazine on their Web site, TheMarriageBed.com.

Created in 1997, the site covers topics like anal, oral and phone sex; masturbation and role-playing; fetishes; bonding; and spanking.

"We had a great marriage, but a terrible sex life," Paul Byerly told ABCNEWS.com. The couple talks openly about their inability to enjoy sex because of Lori's history of sex abuse and his involvement in pornography.

Honestly. :faint Is this really necessary???? How on earth does teaching on 'phone sex' glorify God in ANY way? Ugh.

billiefan2000
April 15th, 2008, 05:33 PM
From the article:



Honestly. :faint Is this really necessary???? How on earth does teaching on 'phone sex' glorify God in ANY way? Ugh.

gabby you are so right

this is more about pushing sleaze amongest christians


and creating a pornification of the church going on

more then anything







related article:

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=574

“Sex” Church Pastors Manufacture Controversy


http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=360

Gabby
April 15th, 2008, 05:37 PM
gabby you are so right

this is more about pushing sleaze amongest christians


and creating a pornification of the church going on

more then anything







related article:

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=574

“Sex” Church Pastors Manufacture Controversy


http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=360

Yeah. Seems these 'teachers' forget the Holiness of God and this is just plain BAD behavior! These people treat God as if He's a good old boy from down the street. I want to remind to 'take off your shoes for you are standing on holy ground'!

Chuck Taylorz
April 15th, 2008, 05:37 PM
**Laughing**....Actually it not so funny now..
Why are they doing this, they must Have an explanation/Reason...

icebear
April 15th, 2008, 05:45 PM
**Laughing**....Actually it not so funny now..
Why are they doing this, they must Have an explanation/Reason...
it fills the seats

billiefan2000
April 15th, 2008, 06:03 PM
it fills the seats


and it is also the way to be "relevant" as a church (I am so sick of hearing churches trying to be relevant

I would love to see churches be holy, not "relevant"

Chuck Taylorz
April 15th, 2008, 06:34 PM
it fills the seats

Oh...Oh..Surely they are aware hat they an only speak to these folks about one thing, and nothing else..

billiefan2000
April 19th, 2008, 05:30 PM
Christians Reject Taboo on Hot Sex in Marriage


What’s wrong with married couples having hot and holy sex?” is the question more and more pastors and Christian counselors are posing to believers.

Once regarded as a hush-hush topic in church, sex is increasingly being openly discussed and even promoted by an unlikely ally – Christian pastors.



But this effort comes with strings attached – it’s only meant for married couples.

"People carry a lot of guilt from parents who said sex is bad," said the Rev. Kerry Shook


senior pastor of the 15,600-member Woodlands Church outside Houston, according to ABC news.


"We help them (couples) to have a healthy sex life. One of the things we cover in scripture is how to meet each other's needs in bed."




Shook and his wife Chris recently delivered a popular sermon titled “How to Make Your Marriage Sizzle”


where they combined culinary tips with sex talk that touched on intimacy, marriage, and problems that come between couples.

Meanwhile in Kansas, the Rev. Adam Hamilton of the 14,000-member United Methodist Church of the Resurrection says, “Sex is a gift, a good thing.”

"God allows you to have pleasure," Hamilton said.




"That's how he designed your body. Once you learn it's a gift from God, you embrace it and lay aside the shame."

Hamilton noted that while many churches still consider sex a topic not to be discussed, he contends that more open discussions will actually strengthen marriages.

Earlier this year, popular emerging church leader Pastor Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill Church in Seattle


opened the floor up to questions about sex from the mainly young adult congregation.


The open talks were part of his sermon series “Religion Saves and 9 Other Misconceptions.”

During his sermon on sex, birth control and abortion,


Driscoll said God didn’t create sex only for procreation, but also for pleasure, comfort and protection within marriage.




“There are books … even from Christians who love Jesus that talk about all



the pleasures and joys and the anatomical structure of the body and the ways to please your spouse and to have the most joy,”




Driscoll said in response to an attendant’s question about pleasing one’s spouse. “And you know what? I would whole-heartedly encourage it.”

“Looking for ways to please your spouse is wonderful.



It’s biblical,” he added. “It builds intimacy, love, joy, trust and pleasure.



Furthermore, it helps to safeguard and protect a marriage from temptation,” he said.

“I think Christian marriage gets a really bad rap.


I don’t think it needs to,” Driscoll said.



“I think it was Garrison Keillor who said ‘It’s good old fashioned monogamy that’s really sexy.’”

Christian books about sex are increasingly popular.




Conservative Christian leaders Tim LaHaye co-author of the popular Left Behind series,


and his wife Beverly LaHaye wrote the book The Act of Marriage, a sex manual for evangelicals.


The book was the first to argue that sex can complement, rather than undermine, a marriage.




"Sex is such an important part of what we believe," said Judy Episcopo


director of women’s ministry at Wisconsin-based Appleton Alliance Church


who recently organized a church conference on sex.

"There's a lot of guilt and pain and complacency about sexual relationships and a lot of ignorance about exactly what the Bible says about sex."

In her conference, she seeks to teach congregants that the Bible says many good things about sex. Although the conference allows single women to participate, it teaches young women to remain pure until marriage.




Another popular conference is Intimate Issues, which helps women age 17-77 understand God’s view of sex.




The event describes itself as a spiritual life conference that is a time of redemption, worship,

looking in God’s word, and a time to laugh about “the body” and other things that only women can identify with.

Intimateissues.com is one of the most popular Christian Web sites that encourages couples to have a holy and passionate marriage.



http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080417/31998_Christians_Reject_Taboo_on_Hot_Sex_in_Marria ge___.htm




considering the apostasy problem in our churches, I for one think the sex talk has to stop in the churches until the apostasy problem in our churches is dealt with



2 Timothy 3:1-5