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swcolorado
April 15th, 2008, 04:28 PM
My daughter's roommate in college was diagnosed with a potential life threatening illness. This weekend, she started vomiting lots of blood and passed out in the bathroom. My daughter (who is also an EMT) called 911 and the roommate was transported to the hospital and admitted.

Her parents came from out of town and checked her out of the hospital and then went to the college and withdrew her. There are only 4 weeks left in the semester.

My daughter tried to talk to her about what was going on and the roommate said her religion didn't believe in doctors and that her parents were mad that the roommates called 911.

Sami said she belongs to "The First Church of the First Born". Can anyone tell me anything about this group??

Thanks! and please remember Sami in your prayers!

Sing4Him
April 15th, 2008, 04:33 PM
Very dangerous cult.. got more coming in a minute... moving this to cults !

Sing4Him
April 15th, 2008, 04:39 PM
A minority of congregations believe in a prohibition against seeking medical care from a physician and the taking of medications.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Assembly_and_Church_of_the_First_Born


http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=518&Itemid=8


The Church of the Firstborn is Christ's heavenly church, and its members are exalted beings who gain an inheritance in the highest heaven of the celestial world and for whom the family continues in eternity.

In the scriptures Jesus Christ is called the Firstborn. He was the first spirit child born of God the Father in the premortal existence and was in the beginning with God (John 1:1-5, 14). Christ also became the Firstborn from the dead, the first person resurrected, "that in all things he might have the preeminence" (Col. 1:18; Acts 26:23; 1 Cor. 15:23; Rev. 1:5). Even as the first principles and ordinances, including baptism in water and the reception of the Holy Ghost, constitute the gate into the earthly Church of Jesus Christ, so higher ordinances of the priesthood constitute the gate into the Church of the Firstborn. To secure the blessings that pertain to the Church of the Firstborn, one must obey the gospel from the heart, receive all of the ordinances that pertain to the house of the Lord, and be sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise in the Celestial Kingdom of God (D&C 76:67, 71, 94; 77:11; 78:21; 88:1-5; TPJS, p. 237).

Revelations to the Prophet Joseph Smith supplement those of the New Testament to indicate that the Church of the Firstborn consists of those who have the inheritance of the Firstborn and become joint-heirs with Christ in receiving all that the Father has (Rom. 8:14-17; D&C 84:33-38; see Heirs of God). The Lord said, "If you keep my commandments you shall receive of his fulness, and be glorified in me as I am in the Father; …I…am the Firstborn; …And all those who are begotten through me are partakers of the glory of the same, and are the Church of the Firstborn" (D&C 93:20-22). The Church of the Firstborn is the divine patriarchal order in its eternal form. Building the priesthood family order on this earth by receiving sealings in the temple is a preparation and foundation for this blessing in eternity (see Gospel of Abraham).http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/afterlife/firstborn_eom.htm

When persons have proved themselves faithful in all things required by the Lord, it is their privilege to receive covenants and obligations that will enable them to be heirs of God as members of the Church of the Firstborn. They are "sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise" and are those "into whose hands the Father has given all things" (D&C 76:51-55). They will be priests and priestesses, kings and queens, receiving the Father's glory, having the fulness of knowledge, wisdom, power, and dominion (D&C 76:56-62; cf. 107:19). At the second coming of Jesus Christ, the "general assembly of the Church of the Firstborn" will descend with him (Heb. 12:22-23; JST Gen. 9:23; D&C 76:54, 63).

Rebekah
April 15th, 2008, 04:39 PM
I don't have any personal knowledge or experience, but here is what I found when I googled them:

The following website has some articles about medical incidents involving this denomination--just scroll down past the google ads:
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/g03.html

I found the following link that seems to be describing what they believe--an branch off sect from Mormons called Morrisites.
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/dr.dahesh/history.html

Sing4Him
April 15th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Seems to have Mormon roots? :scratch

in looking seems to be 2 kinds

Sing4Him
April 15th, 2008, 04:48 PM
[YOU TUBE VIDEO]LXJbSNg9Lac[/YOU TUBE VIDEO]


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:idunno:idunno:idunno

FaithContender
April 15th, 2008, 05:22 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Assembly_and_Church_of_the_First_Born


http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=518&Itemid=8

Seems like a hybrid of LDS and JW. :tsk

Praying for the girl:pray

goinghome
April 16th, 2008, 01:43 AM
Yuck, those videos make me think of voo-doo. The rhythmic music and staring down at the ground while dancing, in some sort of trance state..... uhhggghhh yucky! :tsk