Passover Question

[1CatDad]

Went to a service this weekend, and heard a pastor make a statement which has bothered me since I heard it. I would like some input please.

The pastor was preaching on Exodus 12:21-24

Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel, and said unto them, Draw out and take you a lamb according to your families, and kill the passover. And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the basin, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the basin; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning. For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you. And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons forever.

The point he was making is: The Passover still applies today and the feast we shall keep as an ordinance forever.

Now, as I understand it, Christ is illustrated in the Passover because He is our Passover sacrifice, with Egypt being a symbol of the world and our bondage to sin. Israel applied the blood of the lamb to the door out of faith, in much the same way that we accept Christ's sacrifice by faith.

However, that really wasn't the point the pastor was making. His point was that we should still celebrate the Passover today by putting the blood of the Lamb on the door posts and lintels of our heart.

Something about the sermon didn't set right with either me or my wife. We both left there kind of confused as to the point the pastor was trying to make. Could it be the pastor's analogy was just off and he wasn't making the clear connection to Christ as he should have? :idunno

Any thoughts are appreciated.

P.S. This church will also be doing a study of Henry Blackaby's "Fresh Encounters." :fear :tape

[iSong6:3]

Now, as I understand it, Christ is illustrated in the Passover because He is our Passover sacrifice, with Egypt being a symbol of the world and our bondage to sin. Israel applied the blood of the lamb to the door out of faith, in much the same way that we accept Christ's sacrifice by faith.

However, that really wasn't the point the pastor was making. His point was that we should still celebrate the Passover today by putting the blood of the Lamb on the door posts and lintels of our heart.



You are correct in your first paragraph, according to the Scriptures.

That being so, is he saying that you need to get *re-saved* every Passover? :scratch (Or put blood on the literal door??)

Could you call and ask him what he meant? I can't decipher it either! :hug

[1CatDad]

Could you call and ask him what he meant? I can't decipher it either! :hug

Thanks, a least we weren't the only ones confused. I do believe we will try to get clarification from him after we have had some time to soak this up. :hug

[watchman]

As Jew, I can shed a bit of light on this, and hopefully ease your mind.

We are commanded to observe the passover every year, yet we could not put the blood on the door as we are not in Egypt, and the we would not have continued that part of Passover after leaving, although we would have continued with the offering of the lamb (and it was until the Temple was destroyed).

So we now observe the Feast of Unleavened bread (Matsoh) and we retell the Passover story and it's ordnance as a remembrance of what G-d did when He brought us out of Egypt, (because we were there even if we were yet the seed of our forebears)
So we observe in every generation.

From the dripping of wine when the plagues are mentioned, and the dipping of greens that reminds us of the passage through the sea, and the bitter herbs and charoseth (mortar) to remind us and "make it real" is much like what your pastor said regarding applying the "Blood of the Lamb", in your minds eye, in a symbolic way, as a reminder.

You no more "spill the blood" of Messiah any more than we make real mortar.

You simply put yourself in the "place" in your mind that you have a clear and lasting impression.

We do the same with song, and when we recite the hymns, and when we read and write stories and movies about the accounts.
We are not passive, but involved in the retelling.

I think that may have been what your pastor was trying to convey.

You are commended for addressing it, and I would ask that you approach your pastor and tell him you are not 100% sure to the message and ask him if he could clarify.

I am sure he will.

hth

[1CatDad]

Thank you Watchman for the clarification, and I do believe the pastor was trying to convey this. He did seem to come across as saying the Passover ordinance applies to all, not just the Jews. We will talk to him on this issue to be sure.

[Kliska]

:thinking

Could he have been implying a connection between Passover and the Lord's Supper or Communion as well?

[HeIsEnough]

Now, as I understand it, Christ is illustrated in the Passover because He is our Passover sacrifice, with Egypt being a symbol of the world and our bondage to sin. Israel applied the blood of the lamb to the door out of faith, in much the same way that we accept Christ's sacrifice by faith.

However, that really wasn't the point the pastor was making. His point was that we should still celebrate the Passover today by putting the blood of the Lamb on the door posts and lintels of our heart.

Something about the sermon didn't set right with either me or my wife.

1 Corinthians 5:6-8
6Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.



Don't allow the leaven a place, when we are spotless already (unleavened), made that way by the blood of Christ. To do less, is to bring shame to God.



In this scripture application, applying it to the fellowship you are in. It was done by Israel in Egypt, it was also done by each individual. The same applies to us today, in the spiritual sense. They were to remove the man who was leaven in their 'bread'.



The element that I would take from the message, is to be holy.

The specifics your Pastor referenced are kind of difficult to guess. People can get pretty spiritual at times.


Did your Pastor clarify for you yet?

[1CatDad]

Did your Pastor clarify for you yet?

We will try to get an answer today or this evening.

[watchman]

Don't allow the leaven a place, when we are spotless already (unleavened), made that way by the blood of Christ. To do less, is to bring shame to God.



In this scripture application, applying it to the fellowship you are in. It was done by Israel in Egypt, it was also done by each individual. The same applies to us today, in the spiritual sense. They were to remove the man who was leaven in their 'bread'.



The element that I would take from the message, is to be holy.

The specifics your Pastor referenced are kind of difficult to guess. People can get pretty spiritual at times.


Did your Pastor clarify for you yet?

:nod

[Biblenuggetlady]

The comments your pastor made sound similar to comments I've heard in sermons. If I am not mistaken, it was a simple salvation message. In short, he is saying that...After we examine Jesus (our Passover sacrafice) and find Him true, apply the blood of the Lamb to your heart-meaning accept Him as your Savior. Those who do not receive Jesus as their Savior, do not have the blood sprinkled on the lintels of their hearts and are unsaved and subject to God's wrath. :)