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May 14th, 2008, 01:57 PM
You guys know anything about Stan Johnson and his so-called Prophecy Club?
Also, a man who calls himself a prophet Tom Deckard?
Thanks so friends are getting into this?


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dramama
May 14th, 2008, 01:58 PM
from Rapture Ready's who's who in Bible prophecy teachers:

The Prophecy Club hosted by Stan Johnson is one of the most error prone prophetic ministries in history. Johnson is very much a promoter of pop-apologetics. This where you have sensationalism and speculation replacing Biblical truth. There is simply no teaching that is too nutty or outlandish for Stan to believe.

In 1999 the Prophecy Club was warning Jews that it is essential that they return to Israel because the United States Government and the United Nations are building concentration camps in America to imprison Jews and "Israel-supporting" Christians.

Stan Johnson claims "the Lord" told Peter Martinez and himself to start churches in the 42 cities where The Prophecy Club has meetings. Each city will get only one church, called 'The Church of Ephesus', or 'The Church of Philadelphia', 'The Church of Dallas', 'The Church of Modesto' and so on." This city-church' concept is similar to that being promoted by a number of other aberrant and cultic movements.

The Prophesy Club has featured a speaker who mentioned in passing his trip through the solar system, a Texas oil man that believers he will discover huge reserves of oil in Israel, and several folks that have falsely predicted the start of the tribulation.

Comment made about Stan Johnson and The Prophecy Club:

"If the Lord were really in Stan Johnson's ministry, there would not be so many conflicting "prophetic" utterances such as those by Dumitri Dudeman, and he would not be now issuing so many apologies in an attempt to regain some semblance of credibility. Therefore, I have also rejected the work of Stan Johnson of The Prophecy Club. Y2K was the last straw when nothing prophesied ever panned out. The Prophecy Club really played that one out for all it was worth - a prime example of fear-mongering."

"I have watched some of The Prophecy Club videos, and while they have some useful information, they are adamantly post-trib. Not just "Hey we believe in the post-trib view.", but they are getting close to the David Koresh brand of post-tribulational thinking."

dramama
May 14th, 2008, 02:00 PM
also here (scroll down to prophecy club)
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/p00.html

dramama
May 14th, 2008, 02:01 PM
Tom Deckard:


“The Prophecy Club” has typically been, in recent years, a platform for speakers of various backgrounds to speak on topics of importance to Christianity. There have been many very good speakers who have been allowed to use The Prophecy Club’s platform, and as a result, I believe many people have recieved helpful information. Gail Riplinger’s message on Modern Bible Version was springboarded from the Prophecy Club, Michael Hoggard’s message on Bible numerics, and his messages regarding conspiracy and “The DaVinci Code” have also been used to help many… and this is because of the Prophecy Club.

Lately though, there has been an influx of so-called “prophets” who claim to have heard a message from God regarding the destruction of America.

I would like to add here, I am not questioning the destruction of America as a literal event that has been prophesied in the Word of God. But, I do question these “new prophets” who, according to their testimony, do not appear to be prophets at all but… False Prophets.

Such is the case with Mr. Tom Deckard. Mr. Deckard’s message has been played over and over again on the Prophecy Club’s radio broadcast. The broadcast opens with Stan Johnson introducing the speaker (as usual), but begins to glorify Tom Decker as a “Major Prophet”… “The most important prophet of our day”, who’s prophetic ability is based on “fasting”.

Mr. Deckard begins to share with the audience on his pre-recorded speech that he has recieved special revelation from God about the coming destruction of America. Before he shares this revelation though, he validates himself as a prophet. He claims that God shared with him the “secret” to recieving prophecy is “fasting”.

To oppose this teaching… the secret to receiving prophecy has never been to “draw prophecy from God by fasting”. The secret to receiving prophecy is… to be gifted with prophecy. I know that’s not very deep, but it’s the truth. Most of the Old Testament Prophets were not seeking revelation from God when they were given prophecy… in fact, the very opposite is true; Moses, Sampson, Jonah just to name a few were not seeking revelation from God when the Word of God came to them. This is the first flag that should warn us that Mr. Deckard is not a prophet at all.

The second flag that is raised during Mr. Deckards testimony is that he says; when he begins fasting, his conciousness is transferred from the physical to the spiritual. In fact, he says, “After about 5 days of fasting they won’t even let me drive a car because I don’t drive real well”. This effect is supposedly because he is no longer conscious of physical reality as much as “spiritual reality”. At this point during his fasting binge, Mr. Deckard says that he begins to prophecy to strangers about things they are doing wrong and he begins to tell them to “stop what they are doing”. Apparently this action is very disturbing to these strangers, so the people who are assigned to “take care of him”, have to take him aside so he doesn’t freak anyone out.

What Mr. Deckard is experiencing is exactly what New Agers experience when they enter into an altered state of consciousness. What is even more disturbing is that this is similar to what a “Spirit Medium” experiences when they allow entities from the spirit world assume control over their bodies.

The broadcast of the Prophecy Club ends before any of this “special revelation” is revealed, and Stan Johnson tells the listeners how to purchase Tom Deckards tapes and CD’s with the rest of the messages about the prophecy. Stan Johnson also tells the audience how they can purchase his DVD’s on prophecy he has received by the same method.

Folks, Tom Deckard is a False Prophet by his own testimony. I would be very cautious to listen to ANYTHING he had to say, as the prophecy he receives is most likely from a devil, and not from God.

Likewise, I would be very cautious to listen to anything else Stan Johnson has to say because he is receiving his revelation the same way Tom Deckard is. At the very least, Stan Johnson’s discernment is compromised by his overwhelming acceptance of Tom Deckard and his message.

http://gideonsword.net/WordPress/?p=10

Goldie
May 14th, 2008, 02:03 PM
I have heard of Tom Deckard. Many good things, but also many bad things. Pro and con.

billiefan2000
May 14th, 2008, 05:50 PM
You guys know anything about Stan Johnson and his so-called Prophecy Club?
Also, a man who calls himself a prophet Tom Deckard?
Thanks so friends are getting into this?


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Apostle Stan Johnson and his wife Prophet Leslie Johnson (as they call themselves) :twitch :scratch


on their radio show promotes a lot of False Teachers and False Prophets





Turn the dial when his radio show airs and run as fast as you can from Stan and his false teachings.


Stan's radio show makes TBN look like it is preaching sound doctrine (and that is saying something)



Another red flag about Stan:


He always charges for his "conferences" that he has (i.e. In other words Stan Johnson dosent like giving away free stuff (even information)





Tom Deckard I know of a little except



Stan has him on his radio show a lot (I occassionally listen to see what False Teaching Stan is promoting at the moment)


and that Mr. Deckard has been heavily promoted by Prophecy Club

and has appeared with Stan and Leslie Johnson in several of Johnson’s so called “Power of Jesus” crusades.





another "prophet" that Stan is promoting at the moment is a guy named Rick Madison

(sadly have no info on him)

Sing4Him
May 14th, 2008, 09:30 PM
make me think of Willy Wonka and the "bad egg" machine
:heh

iSong6:3
May 14th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Re: false prophet and Hebrew Roots cultist Tom Deckard -

http://www.apostasywatch.com/wolves3/deckard.html

billiefan2000
July 9th, 2008, 08:13 PM
sad news:

Stan Johnson is coming to my town in a few days :ohno


worser news

KETV 7 the ABC station in Omaha Nebraska is advertising this event numerous times a day during Judge Judy and other shows


and also WOWT NBC Channel 6 is promoting it

:ohno to KETV and WOWT


I doubt that KETV BTW will give Brannon Howse and Bob Cornuke and D.A. Carson

who are all coming in october to Omaha, the same kind of publicity