Just a thought

[RWSchilz]

I have a thought I would like to share.

2 Peter 3:8 (New King James Version)
8But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

If I take this scripture literally! From our perspective in theory all Christians who have died after Christ would only be near the end of there 2nd year in Heaven, Moses roughly 3, Abraham 4, Noah 5 and Adam & Eve 6. Roughly speaking for every 1.4 minutes that pass in Heaven 1 year will pass on earth. If I were to speculate that the Rapture of the Church will begin the 7 year tribulation we will not have much time in heaven to spend getting acquainted! 1.4 minutes x 5 minutes = 7 years. We will have just enough time to get on our white robes and reassemble behind Jesus Christ for the return flight to see our King of Kings claim his earthly Throne. It is also a comforting thought to know that our resent loved ones who have passed on will be seeing us very soon from there perspective. Just for fun!

Do you think this theory has any validity?

[light4mypath]

Interesting.....
I too, have taken that passage literally, but never broke it down into minutes.....

Does make it a bit exciting, looking at it from that perspective, huh?:yeah

[Pioneer Woman]

I've always been fascinated by that verse, ever since I first read it. It's hard for my human mind to comprehend that our (earth) time is not the same as in Heaven.

Has anyone ever wonderd too, what Jesus meant by using the word "soon" (that He'd return "soon") when He went back to Heaven? Obviously our idea of soon, wasn't what Jesus meant. I'm sure He knew that as humans, those back then would assume He'd return in their lifetimes.

The only thing I can figure is that's why we have 2Peter 3:8. God wanted us to know and understand the time differences. :)

[Jany]

As I understand Peter's second letter is that he is trying to tell Believers that for sure "the day of the Lord will come." This was a challenge to the the false teachers who were saying He wouldn't.

To Him a thousand years may count as one day, as Psalms 90:4 says - for as a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday with it is past. <><

[RWSchilz]

I've always been fascinated by that verse, ever since I first read it. It's hard for my human mind to comprehend that our (earth) time is not the same as in Heaven.

Has anyone ever wonderd too, what Jesus meant by using the word "soon" (that He'd return "soon") when He went back to Heaven? Obviously our idea of soon, wasn't what Jesus meant. I'm sure He knew that as humans, those back then would assume He'd return in their lifetimes.

The only thing I can figure is that's why we have 2Peter 3:8. God wanted us to know and understand the time differences. :)

Jesus wanted every generation to follow to immanently be watching for his return, 2Peter 3:8 helps us to be in God's time where “soon and quickly” in heaven are relative terms.

[Old 33]

I don't take it literally, but rather believe it's a simile. That's why it's stated twice, almost poetically: "one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." None of us can comprehend a thousand years, and none of us can truly comprehend God.

This is similar to the passage about forgiving someone seventy times seven...it's not to stay that you only have to forgive someone 490 times, but on the 491st time they wrong you you're allowed to punish them. The "seventy times seven" is meant as a metaphor for forgiving someone as many times as is necessary.

[blitzkreig]

It is an infinite God communicating a very difficult concept to a very limited finite human.

Truth is that one billion years is as a day.

Or a trillion ...

RWSchilz ... time is an interesting thing when viewed from Eternity.

Here is a concept ...

As Eternity ... is well ... "eternal", Adam, Abraham, Moses, Paul and I all will die hundreds and hundreds of years apart (should the Lord tarry and I don't get all caught up). Some of us will die thousands of years apart from one another.

But from Heaven, God will "see" each of us ... our feet as it were ... getting wet in that Jordan River at the exact same time.

I will look to my left and see Peter the Apostle, and to my right I might see you.

A very interesting book you should read is "Journey out of Time" by Dr. Arthur Custance. It is part science and part pure speculation ... but 100% very interesting. It is free ... here:

http://www.custance.org/Library/Journey/index.html

[Pioneer Woman]

Sounds kind of like the stuff about speed of light, time related to space, ect. That is a great way to be thinking all this! Thank you, Blitzkreitg! Almost like we're going to all arive in Heaven at the same time, though we died days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries or miliniums apart! I heard there's no time (tick tock kind of time) in Heaven.

I just had a strange thought, it's almost like maybe even though we're here now, we're also already in Heaven. It just hasn't happened yet in our time frame. My mind and thinking really run away with me when thinking things that are so hard to concerive through our human minds. :)

It is an infinite God communicating a very difficult concept to a very limited finite human.

Truth is that one billion years is as a day.

Or a trillion ...

RWSchilz ... time is an interesting thing when viewed from Eternity.

Here is a concept ...

As Eternity ... is well ... "eternal", Adam, Abraham, Moses, Paul and I all will die hundreds and hundreds of years apart (should the Lord tarry and I don't get all caught up). Some of us will die thousands of years apart from one another.

But from Heaven, God will "see" each of us ... our feet as it were ... getting wet in that Jordan River at the exact same time.

I will look to my left and see Peter the Apostle, and to my right I might see you.

A very interesting book you should read is "Journey out of Time" by Dr. Arthur Custance. It is part science and part pure speculation ... but 100% very interesting. It is free ... here:

http://www.custance.org/Library/Journey/index.html

[blitzkreig]

Sounds kind of like the stuff about speed of light, time related to space, ect. That is a great way to be thinking all this! Thank you, Blitzkreitg! Almost like we're going to all arive in Heaven at the same time, though we died days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries or miliniums apart! I heard there's no time (tick tock kind of time) in Heaven. Yes you have the concept. However I believe that there is a kind of "time" in heaven. I think many folks miss translate Rev 10:6 where it says that there is "time no longer" ... which simply means that they are "out of time". ... "time has run out" for them.

I just had a strange thought, it's almost like maybe even though we're here now, we're also already in Heaven. It just hasn't happened yet in our time frame. My mind and thinking really run away with me when thinking things that are so hard to concerive through our human minds. :) You are correct again. We become "strangers" to earth the moment you are born of heaven. Sojourners. You get your citizenship papers to heaven ...

For our citizenship is in Heaven, from where we also wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our body of humiliation, for it to be conformed to His body of glory, according to the working of Him to be able even to subject all things under Himself.
(Phi 3:20-21)


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[Pioneer Woman]

Thank you for your comments, Blitzkreig. I really needed to hear (read) all this tonight. My heart and soul feel so much joy of the Lord, I feel I'm gonna bust! I am so homesick, I can't wait to be HOME!

And I love that verse about our citizenship. I have the books by an author named Corrie Ten Boom, she traveled a lot and often got asked of her citizenship when traveling to other countries. And she would quote that scripture to those who asked! :) Thank you for bringing that verse back to my mind.