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billiefan2000
May 16th, 2008, 01:15 PM
this was today's Live Prayer Devotional from Bill Keller of http://www.liveprayer.com


http://liveprayer.com/today.cfm




Is it Biblical to tell people you are packing up the power of God and taking
it from city to city?


I was flipping through the television stations in the
early morning hours the other day.


Sprinkled in between the infomercials
for exercise equipment, diet pills, foreclosure real estate seminars, were
several con men merchandising Christ.


Men like Don Stewart and his magical
green handkerchief,


Peter Popoff and his vials of holy water,


and Robert Tilton with his latest wife promising people great miracles if they would send him $1,000.




How these men get up every morning and do what they do is
beyond me.

As I watched some of their disgusting antics, promising people things men
can't promise in order to make a few dollars,


I was thinking that if I
really wanted to make tens of millions of dollars,



I would create one of
these 30 minute infomercials where for $5,000 I would sell people the power
of God.


As a matter of fact, they would get God's power in a nice Louis
Vuitton travel bag.


The phones would never stop ringing as people would be
calling in to buy the power of God.




Sadly, this is what is happening, minus the $5,000 price tag and the Louis
Vuitton travel bag, at the "revival" meetings in Lakeland.





Claims are being
made about taking God's power (anointing) from Lakeland to other cities like
it was a commodity men could control.


My friend, the power of God is NOT
for sale as Simon the Sorcerer found out in the Book of Acts, and it is not
something for men to ration out like bottles of water.


Let me share this
insight with you today.


If you are saved, have put your faith in Jesus
Christ, you already have the power of God dwelling within you!!!

All who have been saved are indwelled with the Holy Spirit.


That means ALL
Believers have God's power within them.


There is nothing Biblical about
going to some meeting and getting someone else's anointing.


I know that the
glory of God used to be carried from one place to another in the Ark and
that Elijah bestowed his power on Elisha, but these events happened in the
Old Testament BEFORE the Holy Spirit indwelled men.



Today, the power of God
is available to ALL MEN.


All you have to do is accept the Lord as your
Savior and then call upon that power.


This idea of taking some special
anointing from one place to another is UNBIBLICAL and pure hype.

I wrote about these meetings in Lakeland after the first week to warn you
about what was happening.


Here is a link to that Devotional:
http://liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=3306

Since that time, it has
deteriorated into mostly hype and lots of spiritually dangerous practices.


First of all, the vast majority of the people attending these meetings are
not the lost from the surrounding community,


but experience chasers from
churches across the country seeking to be part of a move of God.


Most nights, there is no message, the Gospel is not preached, it simply goes from
praise and worship right into the "healing service."

As I stated in my
first Devotional on this, in the Bible signs and wonders followed the
preaching of the Gospel.




Some of the spiritually dangerous practices at these meetings include an
obsession with angels.



We know from the Bible that angels are real, they do
exist, but Paul often warned the Corinthians, the Galatians and the
Colossians about angels who preached another Gospel and demanded attention.



Being obsessed with angels can lead to deception. Don't forget, it was an
angel of satan who visited Mohammed and gave him the inspiration for the
false religion of Islam,

and it was an angel of satan who visited Joseph
Smith and gave him the inspiration for the Mormon cult!

Another spiritually dangerous part of these meetings in Lakeland are the
strange and bizarre behavior by many of the people on stage, behavior that
is encouraged by the ministers.



Paul was very clear about things being done
with discipline and in order.


Listen, I have been in hundreds of meetings
over the years and have seen some incredibly strange manifestations.


Most
people really have no clue the incredible powers that exist in the spiritual
realm, both good and bad.



However, so much of what is occurring in Lakeland
is simply exuberance and euphoria and has very little to do with any sort of
real change in people's hearts or lives.

I know those who are putting these meetings on have been hyping them as a
great move of God and promoting a tour to other cites where people can get a
taste of God's power.




Let me share this with you.


Real revival is not a
bunch of church people flying to a city to be part of the latest hot
experience.



When real revival breaks out, yes there will be signs and
wonders, yes people will be healed, yes miracles will happen,

but that will
all be secondary to the LOST PEOPLE GETTING SAVED!




The lost, not the
church, will be coming to these meetings to get saved, and if God chooses to
do other things while they are there accepting the Lord it will be the icing
on the cake.



Real revival won't be one man, one ministry, but a move of God's Spirit
through dozens, hundreds, thousands of people who will be His conduit to
bring people the message of Christ!


The fact is, there has been a 105 month
revival going on, right here at Liveprayer.com.


Tens of millions of people
around the world have been impacted for Christ since we began.



Over 225,000 souls we know of have come to know Jesus as their Savior. We have prayed
for over 70 million prayer requests.


We have an archive of over 3.5 million
praise reports documenting God's miracle working power. All of this has
been possible because people like you have shared a Devotional with someone,



encouraged people to come to the website, got people to watch the TV
program, and the power of God touched them.

I love you and care about you so much.


Don't worry, as tempting as it would
be to go on late night TV and sell people the power of God in a Louis
Vuitton travel bag,


I'll stick to sharing the simple Truth of His Word and
tell people that their only hope for this life and eternity is a
relationship with Jesus Christ.


The fact is, the power of God is available
be to ALL who will come to know Jesus as their Savior by faith and tap into
the power of the Holy Spirit that indwells them.


You don't need to come to
Lakeland, Florida, or this meeting, or that meeting, to experience the power
of God. You can experienced His power right where you are at this moment.

Man can't heal you, man can't work the miracles you need in your life, only
God can. I pray that this very moment you seek the Lord for the needs in
your life today.




If you need a financial miracle, healing in your body,
your marriage restored, deliverance from some bondage, or anything else,
call upon the name of the Lord right now, this very moment.


He is your
strength and your hope and is the One who will meet you at the very point of
your need today. Please know that I will stand with you in prayer and
believe God with you for your needs to be met..

GOD'S POWER IS AVAILABLE TO YOU TODAY, RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE. CALL ON HIS
NAME AND LET HIM TOUCH YOUR LIFE AND MEET YOUR NEEDS. AMEN!!!


In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller


http://liveprayer.com/today.cfm




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Clouds
May 16th, 2008, 02:41 PM
Bill Keller's message sounds right on the mark.

I remember once going into a "church" where the "teachers" from Toronto had been flown in to demonstrate the "power of the Holy Spirit" that day.
I got to see first hand what "speaking in tongues" and "unholy laughter" was all about.
There was a feeling of pure evil in that building that would have to be experienced to be understood. Pure evil.
The false teachers got up and said that the meeting was being ruined by some who were not true believers.
They must have been looking at the shock and disbelief on my face as I looked at the insane antics of many around me.
A brother in Christ behind me could see, by my lack of any movement, that I wanted no part of the evil we felt. He put his hand on my shoulder for a second to let me know it was way past time that we leave.

We got up without looking at anyone in that large crowd and walked out to leave them to their evil.

If I were back there today, I would have yelled: "YOU ARE ALL CRAZY!!!!!!!" at the top of my lungs, before leaving.

billiefan2000
May 16th, 2008, 05:24 PM
Bill Keller's message sounds right on the mark.


I agree

mary rae
May 16th, 2008, 05:53 PM
I Agree with billiefan and the OP. The services we call "revivals"- are they really? I think we've strayed a long way.

I've been following the information about Lakeland, now for just a few days. Mostly from sites on the internet. We don't have cable or satelite TV, so I can't say I've been able to hear it 'first hand' this way. We are just on dial up internet, too, so the video/ video clips aren't real good either- take so long to load up.

That being said, I've noticed that more and more Christians among my Charismatic brothers and sisters are stepping up to the plate and saying that something is not right here. It may have started out as something from God but seems to be degenerating into at least the flesh and at worst, demonic/devilish.

May God help us to point out the errors, with a humble spirit, for the love of God and our erring fellow believers. Not in a spirit of spite or harsh unrighteous judgementalism, but with a mind of pulling them off the slippery path they are on (in which they can also pull many innocent people with them.)

Glory
June 17th, 2008, 10:03 AM
Billie, this was great! :thumb It's worth a :bump

billiefan2000
June 17th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Billie, this was great! :thumb It's worth a :bump

:agree

Berean Girl
June 17th, 2008, 10:21 PM
Because I was looked at from the pulpit and was told that there are some here with "religious spirits".... that was a red flag for me along with all the craziness going on in that service and yes, it was a yucky feeling, and I never went back to that church after that...

Bentley has visited that church and a friend of mine who goes there thinks he's really of "God" and she doesnt want to miss out, so much so that she not only retorted against me but also against Mark Cahill... :twitch