Article: Same-sex marriage points to End Times

[Jubilee on Earth]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64769

Jeffrey Satinover, who holds an M.D. from Princeton and doctorates from Yale, MIT and Harvard, was on my radio program one day and I asked him about where we are in history. He explained that according to the "Babylonian Talmud" – the book of rabbis' interpretation of the scriptures 1,000 years before Christ, there was only one time in history that reflects where we are right now. There was only one time in history, according to these writings, where men were given in marriage to men, and women given in marriage to women.

Want to venture a guess as to when? No, it wasn't in Sodom and Gomorrah, although that was my guess. Homosexuality was rampant there, of course, but according to the Talmud, not homosexual "marriage." What about ancient Greece? Rome? No. Babylon? No again. The one time in history when homosexual "marriage" was practiced was … during the days of Noah. And according to Satinover, that's what the "Babylonian Talmud" attributes as the final straw that led to the Flood.

This thread isn't to debate about homosexuality or any of that... I'd just like to discuss this point. This is one specific thing that has never been in any other time in history, except for in the days of Noah.

No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; (Matthew 24:36-38)

Thank you, Almighty Lord. I am SOOOOO ready to go.

:hat We're outta here!!!!

[The Red Aaron]

I never realized that. very interesting. The demon behind homosexuality is one of the most evil horrible demons every created. I can't wait to judge him and send him to the pit!! :heh

[Gods disciple]

No where in the the word of God (bible) does it justify homosexuality. There's nothing good about it. We need to pray for these people and the future of the world (especially America). God bless America and Israel.

[pobsn]

This article doesn't seem very well researched. True, homosexual marriage hasn't been practiced in the western world in recorded history, but man-man and woman-woman marriages were quite common among most American Indian tribes as well as in several Asian cultures. In fact, one of Cortez's first actions upon landing in the Americas was to execute 40 male-male couples.

You also run into problems when looking at many ancient cultures simply because they didn't view marriage the same way we do now and accurate documents weren't kept. Just look at the Bible where the only genealogies kept are those that resulted in children and carried on a bloodline.

This isn't meant to justify anything. I'm just curious why the author chose to make such blanket (and personally biased) statements while overlooking commonly accepted knowledge of the ancient world.

[MsFriend]

I believe that things such as this have always been...but, there was a time when things were done "IN THE DARK" for a reason

Now, it's done OPENLY AND BLATENLY FOR ALL TO SEE!!!!

yesterday while at Lowes (super hardware store) with my a friend, we saw two girls walking...at about the same time we noticed that they were holding hands...just as natural as could be - AS IF!!!!!!!!!!!

[Minori]

I don't know. I've never really felt like homosexuality was a big deal to me. I mean, I see it happen, I know what the Bible has to say on the matter... But I just never really felt disgusted by it. Nor have I felt anger towards it, or even dislike. I guess it's just a totally neutral thing in my eyes.

Not that it particularly affects me, as I'm a straight-asexual, anyway. Other people may disagree with me, and that's fine, but I've always felt like you can't help who you fall in love with. I know some homosexual couples are all about the sex (some straight ones too) and anything like that just grosses me out. I dunno, the whole thing is complex. But like said, it doesn't really affect me in any area of my life (or even in people that I know). I remain undecided on the 'issue'.

[ScoobyDoo]

I don't know. I've never really felt like homosexuality was a big deal to me. I mean, I see it happen, I know what the Bible has to say on the matter... But I just never really felt disgusted by it. Nor have I felt anger towards it, or even dislike. I guess it's just a totally neutral thing in my eyes.

Not that it particularly affects me, as I'm a straight-asexual, anyway. Other people may disagree with me, and that's fine, but I've always felt like you can't help who you fall in love with. I know some homosexual couples are all about the sex (some straight ones too) and anything like that just grosses me out. I dunno, the whole thing is complex. But like said, it doesn't really affect me in any area of my life (or even in people that I know). I remain undecided on the 'issue'.

The problems with your statement are bolded. Its not really about what you think or feel, but what God thinks and has said in His Word. He has called homosexuality an abomination and therefore that is what it is. He also said all homosexuals will have a place in the Lake of Fire. Those are not wishy washy words. But words of holiness and truth from a Holy God. Man will do what is right in his own eyes. The Word of God says that in the last days man will call evil good and good evil. And so it goes. The Lord's Word will stand over anything man says. May God be true and every man a liar!

[jayel]

The problems with your statement are bolded.

Forgive me if this is presumptuous, but I think what she's saying is that while she understands that God says homosexuality is a sin, it doesn't bother her or disgust her to the point some here are expressing. I more or less feel the same way.

One of my dearest friends is gay, and he did not tell me this, or maybe he didn't even decide this for himself, until we'd been friends for a few years. So while I agree that the lifestyle is wrong, he is for the most part a good person and a child of God whether you like it or not. He told me that he's tried NOT to be gay, he's fought it, but it's just what is there for him. Born that way, lifestyle choice, I have never been in that situation, so I refuse to judge him in those regards.

We all have our demons that we battle. Why do so many look at teenagers and pre-marital sex with sadness, yet look at homosexuals with disgust? Area all sins not equal? I pray for my friend to change, but in the meantime he is still my friend, and still loved by God.

[Minori]

Forgive me if this is presumptuous, but I think what she's saying is that while she understands that God says homosexuality is a sin, it doesn't bother her or disgust her to the point some here are expressing. I more or less feel the same way.

One of my dearest friends is gay, and he did not tell me this, or maybe he didn't even decide this for himself, until we'd been friends for a few years. So while I agree that the lifestyle is wrong, he is for the most part a good person and a child of God whether you like it or not. He told me that he's tried NOT to be gay, he's fought it, but it's just what is there for him. Born that way, lifestyle choice, I have never been in that situation, so I refuse to judge him in those regards.

We all have our demons that we battle. Why do so many look at teenagers and pre-marital sex with sadness, yet look at homosexuals with disgust? Area all sins not equal? I pray for my friend to change, but in the meantime he is still my friend, and still loved by God.

Yes, exactly. Thanks! :hat

[helmethead]

Forgive me if this is presumptuous, but I think what she's saying is that while she understands that God says homosexuality is a sin, it doesn't bother her or disgust her to the point some here are expressing. I more or less feel the same way.

One of my dearest friends is gay, and he did not tell me this, or maybe he didn't even decide this for himself, until we'd been friends for a few years. So while I agree that the lifestyle is wrong, he is for the most part a good person and a child of God whether you like it or not. He told me that he's tried NOT to be gay, he's fought it, but it's just what is there for him. Born that way, lifestyle choice, I have never been in that situation, so I refuse to judge him in those regards.

We all have our demons that we battle. Why do so many look at teenagers and pre-marital sex with sadness, yet look at homosexuals with disgust? Area all sins not equal? I pray for my friend to change, but in the meantime he is still my friend, and still loved by God.

Mainly because homosexuality is not natural is why people look at it with disgust. The sin, whether homo or hetero, is sin. Male and female were built in their seperate ways to procreate, end of story. God designed heterosexuality, man designed homosexuality.

For your friend, I would caution Matthew 7:16-20. "By their fruit shall you know". The same applies to anyone. If you are truly saved, you cannot go on sinning indefinately without any repurcussions. As I will do with my children, they get out of line, they will be corrected. God does the same to us.