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June 12th, 2008, 06:42 AM
I want to add my thanks as well Lighthouse - this has been a really great "class" to take! Keep adding more stuff so we can keep learning! :hat
June 12th, 2008, 07:15 AM
Uhm lighthouse, i'm a bit disturbed because you mix science fact with mayan mythology and new age madness.
Solar flares are pieces of the sun which leap into space, discharging radiation and strong electrical currents that travel outward into space. They often fall back to the surface of the Sun. Sometimes, a very strong flare, called a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME), actually leaves the Sun and this deadly mass shoots out from the Sun towards the planets like a bullet. Usually these CME's don't hit anything but occasionally they hit a planet like Earth. Some believe a powerful CME once hit Mars.
Earth's magnetic field deflects most of those CMEs towards the poles, causing auroras, so we're quite safe as long as the earth's magnetic field is there.
Another change that Norwegian, Russian and American researchers, Gregg Braden among them, author of the book “Awakening to Zero Point”, are pointing out is a decrease in the spinning velocity of the Earth, while recognizing that its basic frequency, or “beat”, called Schumann Resonance is dramatically increasing.
That book is new age and humanistic in nature and draws from various sources.
For thousands of years the Earth has had this pulsation frequency and life has developed in a relative ecological balance. However, in the 80s, and more acutely from the 90s, the frequency went up from 7,83 to almost 12 hertz, and it’s still increasing. This provoked that the friction mechanism of the nucleus and the magma in the centre of the Earth triggered and the environment began to change: climatic disturbances, greater volcano activities, growth of tensions and conflicts around the world and a general increase of atypical and erratic behaviours in persons, among other changes.
I would rather blame the mass-media for a paradigm shift and we know which enemy of humankind is behind that.
If the Earth would stop its spinning and the frequency of the resonance would reach 13 cycles, we would be in the magnetic field of Zero Point, which is the maximal cycle of Schumann’s scale.
New age rambly speculations.
Some researchers state that while we approximate to Zero Point time seems to be accelerating itself, that is, days seem shorter, weeks and months seem to elapse faster, that our DNA is changing from 2 to 12 chains, and we are becoming more intuitive
More new age garbage.
The Mayas set the birth of the “Fifth Sun” –for them our current cycle- on August 11th of the year 3113 before our era, end which will arrive in 2012 of our era. For them the Era of Water would had ended with the Deluge, the subsequent era with a rain of fire, and ours, called “Era of Movement”, will end with violent earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and devastating storms.
Why go to Maya garbage when the scriptures suffice?
I think lighthouse, you're going overboard with the new age and humanist garbage you dump here as so called evidence.
I kindly ask you to refrain from posting such as evidence and only post it after warning people of what it is.
Keep evidence to verses from scripture and real scientific discoveries please.
June 12th, 2008, 08:25 AM
ill answerr you with science as you are in great error
The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum. Schumann resonances are global electromagnetic resonances, excited by lightning discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth surface and the ionosphere.
This global electromagnetic resonance phenomenon is named after physicist Winfried Otto Schumann who predicted it mathematically in 1952. Schumann resonance occurs because the space between the surface of the Earth and the conductive ionosphere acts as a waveguide. The limited dimensions of the Earth cause this waveguide to act as a resonant cavity for electromagnetic waves in the ELF band. The cavity is naturally excited by energy from lightning strikes. Schumann resonance modes are observed in the power spectra of the natural electromagnetic background noise, as separate peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.8, 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.
The fundamental mode of the Schumann resonance is a standing wave in the Earth-ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth. This lowest-frequency (and highest-intensity) mode of the Schumann resonance occurs at a frequency of approximately 7.8 Hz. Further resonance modes appear at approximately 6.5 Hz intervals, a characteristic attributed to the atmosphere's spherical geometry. The peaks exhibit a spectral width of approximately 20% on account of the damping of the respective modes in the dissipative cavity. The eighth overtone lies at approximately 59.9 Hz.
Schumann resonances are used to track global lightning activity. Owing to the connection between lightning activity and the Earth's climate they can also be used to monitor global temperature variations and variations of upper water vapor. Extraterrestrial lightning may also be detected and studied with Schumann resonances. Schumann resonances have been used for research and monitoring of the lower ionosphere on Earth and was suggested for exploration of lower ionosphere parameters on celestial bodies. Schumann resonances can be used to track geomagnetic and ionospheric disturbances. More recently, Schumann resonances have been used for monitoring transient luminous events – sprites, elves, jets, and other upper-atmospheric lightning. A new field of interest using Schumann resonances is related to short-term earthquake prediction. Schumann resonances have gone beyond the boundaries of physics, invading medicine, raising interest in artists and musicians, and gaining interest from fringe fields such as psychobiology.
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June 12th, 2008, 08:47 AM
Coronal Mass Ejections
Coronal mass ejections (or CMEs) are huge bubbles of gas threaded with magnetic field lines that are ejected from the Sun over the course of several hours. Although the Sun's corona has been observed during total eclipses of the Sun for thousands of years, the existence of coronal mass ejections was unrealized until the space age.
but the mayans did know about this so where did they get their science
and it is science
and please do not say it was demons
June 12th, 2008, 08:48 AM
this is from nasa
hope they are not to new agey lol
Scientists are beginning to understand a historic solar storm in 1859. One day, they say, it could happen again.
In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole.
June 12th, 2008, 08:48 AM
Once in a while--exactly when scientists still cannot predict--an event occurs on the surface of the Sun that releases a tremendous amount of energy in the form of a solar flare or a coronal mass ejection, an explosive burst of very hot, electrified gases with a mass that can surpass that of Mount Everest.
June 12th, 2008, 08:49 AM
What transpired during the dog days of summer 1859, across the 150 million-kilometer (about 93 million-mile) chasm of interplanetary space that separates the Sun and Earth, was this: on August 28, solar observers noted the development of numerous sunspots on the Sun's surface.
Then, on September 1, the Sun released a mammoth solar flare. For almost an entire minute the amount of sunlight the Sun produced at the region of the flare actually doubled.
"With the flare came this explosive release of a massive cloud of magnetically charged plasma called a coronal mass ejection," said Tsurutani. "Not all coronal mass ejections head toward Earth. Those that do usually take three to four days to get here. This one took all of 17 hours and 40 minutes," he noted.
June 12th, 2008, 08:51 AM
we learned about solar flares in the 17th century
the mayans knew about them
where did they get their science
being a Christian does not mean we bury our head in the sand!!
June 12th, 2008, 08:51 AM
Not only was this coronal mass ejection an extremely fast mover, the magnetic fields contained within it were extremely intense and in direct opposition with Earth's magnetic fields. That meant the coronal mass ejection of September 1, 1859, overwhelmed Earth's own magnetic field, allowing charged particles to penetrate into Earth's upper atmosphere.
June 12th, 2008, 08:52 AM
i will repost this
this is from the RR MAIN SITE
so i will post it completely
Will the Earth burn up in 2012?
By Stephen Yulish PhD
There has been much talk of late about the supposed doomsday prediction of December 21, 2012 as reflected in the Mayan long calendar. Most of the ancient Mayan codices were burned by Spanish monks in 1521 as works of the devil. A few survived including the so called Dresden Codex. This 74 page codex written on tree bark and apparently from the famous Mayan temple and observatory at Chichen Itza was sent by Cortes to Emperor Charles V in 1519. Somehow it found its way to the Royal Library at the Court of Saxony in Dresden where it was purchased from a private collector by Johann Christian Goetze. While it was damaged by the fire bombing of Dresden during WWII, much has survived.
From this work, which was written between 1200 and 1250 AD, numerous
astronomical and calendar data points were found including information on eclipses, the transit of the planet Venus as well as information on the motion of the moon, stars and the sun. It has been determined by research scholars that the Mayan long count calendar ends on 188.8.131.52.0 which equates to our date of December 21, 2012 at 10AM GMT. On that day it has been surmised the end will come.
According to my research, many have tried to tie this upcoming apocalyptic winter solstice day with a solar shift, solar storms, and a transit of Venus as well as with severe earthquakes. Is there any truth to these allegations?
According to some astronomers, on this day our solar system will intersect with the Galactic Equator which only happens every 26,000 years. Since the Mayan calendar began in 3114 BC, they had never experienced anything like this before either. The Mayans called this event the Sacred Tree. This alignment with the center of the galaxy also allows for maximum mass and thus maximum gravity.
According to the National Earthquake Information Service of the US Geological Survey, earthquakes have gradually increased from 1 severe quake between 1890 and 1899 to 765 from 2000-2004. Could this be due to our solar systems movement towards this Galactic Equator?
NASA predicts that a terrific solar storm will hit the earth in 2012 which will be 30-50 percent greater than anything before. I believe that there has been global warming over the past decades but it is related to sunspot activity on the sun not carbon dioxide emissions. The sun has gotten hotter and that has affected the earth. A massive solar blast from the sun in 2012 could burn up the earth as could a collision with an asteroid or a comet.
There has even been talk of a polar shift which could disrupt the functioning of the entire earth and could change the axis of rotation. Such a shift has taken place in our geologic past and could happen again. If it happened on December, 1, 2012, it would truly be a day to remember
This apocalyptic date of December 21, 2012 is also supposedly found in Hopi myths, the I-Ching, Aztec writings, Egyptian hieroglyphs, Roman Oracles, writing of Seneca Elders, the chief Shaman of the Cherokee Tribe in NC, and even the writings of Nostradamus, The Russian mathematician Sergey Smelyakov of Khartov University taking the constant Phi (1.6180339), the so called Golden Mean or the Fibonacci sequence, and applying it to solar activity and planetary orbits, found that everything seemed to spiral in on itself on December 21, 2012 implying a time implosion or point of bifurcation.
The planet Venus is set to make a transit across the face of the sun on December 21, 2012 which happens very infrequently. It did happen recently, however, on June 8, 2004 which means it will happen again in eight years which is very unusual but predicted by the Mayans.
I cannot tell you for certain that the earth will be consumed by fire in 2012 or that there will be a polar shift or severe earthquakes, but I can tell you with certainty that one day in the not too distant future it will be consumed by fire and experience a polar shift and severe earthquakes. I can say that because the word of God says so and it did beginning over 2700 years ago, long before the Mayans or the Aztecs or the Hopi or the Seneca or the I-Ching or Nostradamus.
Once before because of its sin the earth was destroyed by water in the Great Flood of Noah’s day but the Bible says that the world will be destroyed again, this time by fire.
“The present heavens and earth, by His word, are being reserved for fire, kept for the Day of Judgment and the destruction of ungodly men” (2Peter 3:7).
“But the day of the Lord will come like a thief in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat and the earth and its works will be burned up” (2Peter 3:10).
“The sun scorched men with fire” (Revelation 16:8).
“A third of the earth was burned up and a third of the trees were burned up and all the green grass was burned up. A great mountain (asteroid?) burning with fire was thrown into the sea and a third of the sea became blood and a third of the creatures which were in the sea and had life died and a third of the ships were destroyed. And a great star (comet?) fell from heaven burning like a torch and it fell on a third of the rivers and springs of water”
“The inhabitants of the earth are burned and few men are left” (Isaiah 24:6).
“The hills melt and the earth is burned up” (Nahum 1:5).
Once again, many have associated December 21, 2012 with a shift in the poles as well as signs in the sky. What does the Bible tell us about these events?
“The stars will fall from the sky” (Matthew 24:29).
If the earth shifts on its axis and we are thrown around, the stars will appear to fall but it will actually be us that are moving.
“The earth is broken asunder. The earth is split through. The earth is shaken violently. Thee earth reels to and fro like a drunkard and it totters like a shack “(Isaiah 24:19-20).
Once again a shift in the polar axis might tear the earth apart.
“There will be great earthquakes. The sun became black like sackcloth; the moon became like blood…The stars of the sky fell to the earth... The sky split apart like a scroll when it is rolled up…every mountain and island moved out of their place’ (Revelation 6:12-14).
More shaking of the earth.
“There will be great earthquakes and in various places plagues and famines and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven… There will be signs in the sun and the moon and stars and upon the earth great dismay among nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves. Men fainting from fear as the powers of heaven will be shaken” (Luke 21:9, 25-26).
Here we see the Bible tell us about signs in the heavens spoken of in relation to December 21, 2012. But what do we do when we see these things happening?
“When you see these things happening, recognize that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I say to you that this generation will not pass away until all things take place…But when these things begin to take place straighten up and lift up your heads because your redemption is drawing near” (Luke 21:31,32,28).
God assures us that, “Heaven and earth will pass away but My words shall not pass away” (Matthew 24:35).
Some people ask why God takes so long to punish the ungodly:
“The Lord is not slow about His promise as some count slowness but is patient toward you not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance” (2Peter 3:9).
Remember this as the end fast approaches.
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