Ipod Nano downloading

[Murph96]

Does anyone know if one can download music CDs onto an Ipod?

[ConsumingFire]

Typically you would rip the CD into iTunes, then sync your iPod with iTunes. iTunes runs on Windows or Mac OSX.

Most of my music library is from CD's that now sit in boxes in my basement. :wave

[ConsumingFire]

On a side note, I have not bought many CDs in the past few years. Online, pick by the track purchasing is just way too convenient. Only the few oddball CDs such as some messianic worship, some old Larry Norman stuff and things like that.

Marantha!

Robert

[Pacman]

I'd advise anyone who's downloading all their music to not forget about backing it up. Personally, I tend to still buy CDs, since that gives you an uncompressed backup that you'll always be able to rip to whatever compressed format you like. I find doing backups a pain, and doing it this way means I don't have to bother.

Also, don't buy any music that has DRM, you're just wasting your money. I believe Amazon are the only download service that are DRM-free across their whole catalog.

[ConsumingFire]

Also, don't buy any music that has DRM, you're just wasting your money. I believe Amazon are the only download service that are DRM-free across their whole catalog.

I dislike DRM as well, hope it goes away ASAP. Many of the tracks in iTunes are DRM free now, it has been the music labels that have pushed that technology. But I do not understand your comment that you are wasting your money. I have bought hundreds of tracks with DRM and they work just fine for the seven ipods we have in our family. Personally I find buying CD's a waste, as I rarely purchase a whole album anymore, just the tracks that I want to listen to.

-Robert

[ConsumingFire]

I'd advise anyone who's downloading all their music to not forget about backing it up. .... I find doing backups a pain, and doing it this way means I don't have to bother.

Yes the CD's are a valid form of backup. But that is only a small part of what needs to be backed up on a machine. Everyone needs a backup strategy for all their files - or risk losing them. (At least you could repurchase your music, but what about financial files/ photos/ etc. - they would be gone forever.)

[Pacman]

But I do not understand your comment that you are wasting your money.

Because the money you're paying doesn't actually give you ownership of the music. You're just buying the rights to use it under certain conditions. The rights-owners can and do occasionally withdraw the rights for you to play DRM-encoded media. At some point in the future (bearing in mind you'd probably want to keep your music collection for life) you might no longer be able to play your music. If you buy DRM-free you'll only ev er have to pay once. If you buy DRM you could end up paying for something you can't use. Financially, it's a no-brainer.

Yes the CD's are a valid form of backup. But that is only a small part of what needs to be backed up on a machine. Everyone needs a backup strategy for all their files - or risk losing them. (At least you could repurchase your music, but what about financial files/ photos/ etc. - they would be gone forever.)

Absolutely. Personally I have all my data on a NAS which periodically gets rsync'ed to a spare drive. However, since uncompressed music would take up so much storage I prefer to have it backed up by buying the CDs. Not to mention the fact that for home use a CD sounds a heck of a lot better than an mp3 or ogg.

[ConsumingFire]

Because the money you're paying doesn't actually give you ownership of the music. You're just buying the rights to use it under certain conditions.

This is a matter of terminology. You are purchasing the music to use withing the license specified. Same goes for purchasing a CD, DVD, software for your computer, etc. I consider the music I purchased with DRM as owned, within the license I purchased it under. It is not a rental model. Even DRM free music is under almost the same licensing restrictions, its just easier to move it around in the future.

In Christ,
Robert

[Pacman]

This is a matter of terminology.

Sorry, but it isn't. Rights owners can and do remove your ability to even play that media. They retain control in a very concrete way.

You may think you have control over those files, but you don't. The whole point of DRM is keep that control in the hands of the rights owner. At the end of the day, forces beyond your control affect the fate of your DRM files. A simple change of a business relationship can render your files unplayable, as was the case with a lot of baseball fans recently:

The MLB DRM fiasco (http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/07/mlb-rips-off-fans-wh.html)

Can you be sure that the exact DRM system your files use will be supported for the rest of your life? What happens to your collection in 10-years time if they switch off your DRM server? What happens if future versions of iTunes stop supporting the version of Fairplay all your music is encrypted with?

[ConsumingFire]

You may think you have control over those files, but you don't. The whole point of DRM is keep that control in the hands of the rights owner. At the end of the day, forces beyond your control affect the fate of your DRM files. A simple change of a business relationship can render your files unplayable, as was the case with a lot of baseball fans recently:


First. I agree with you. DRM free is the way to go.

Second. You changed statements from rights (licensing) to control. Your rights are limited on your hard media by legal issues of license which you agreed to whether you like that or not (you can choose to violate that license in many ways if you want). Your new post has changed the statement from "rights" to "control" of media (which is why I dislike DRM).

Apple has been pushing for DRM free media for quite some time. I'll be glad when all the media labels allow there music to be sold that way.

iTunes does allows for exporting all DRM files to CD, then you can re-rip (I know re-encoding means quality loss). So at least there is a painful way out. But re-ripping hundreds of CDs seems painful as well (especially when so many of them do not show up in the database for track info)

None the less I do not feel like I am wasting my money purchasing this way, until all my purchases can be DRM free. I would feel that way if I had to purchase a whole CD for $10 to get a track or two though. So we each see what is wasteful differently. :)

In Christ,
Robert