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suzirees1969
May 22nd, 2008, 10:50 PM
Forgive me if there are threads questioning whether or not Max Lucado is legitimate, but when I did a search I did not find too much. Does anyone know if he is Biblically sound? I have lots of books, and I purchased them because at the time, his message of God's love attracted me. I have not read the books for some time because I feel this warning within to keep from reading them. I am not sure if this is because I am just being too careful or if it could indeed be the Holy Spirit warning me. I don't recollect Max Lucado stressing the major importance of repentance. Could he be another Rick Warren? I have all these books and now I don't know what to do with them.

Thanks and God bless you!

Suzi

susanb
May 22nd, 2008, 11:30 PM
He's part of the Be Still DVD (contemplative prayer, lectio divina)

http://www.bestillprayer.net/?content=speakers

susanb
May 22nd, 2008, 11:35 PM
On the Be Still link:

Featured book: Cure for the Common Life

"Sweet spot." Golfers understand the term. So do tennis players. What engineers give sports equipment, God gave you, a zone, a region, a life precinct in which you were made to dwell. He tailored the curves of your life to fit an empty space in his jigsaw puzzle. And life makes sweet sense when you find your sweet spot. 87 percent of workers haven't found their sweet spot; 80 percent don't believe their talents are used. What can you do? You're suffering from the common life, and you desperately need a cure. In Cure For The Common Life, Max Lucado offers practical tools for exploring and identifying your own uniqueness, motivation to put your strengths to work, and the perfect prescription for finding and living in your sweet spot for the rest of your life.

The "sweet spot" is in reference to our "divinity" that supposedly God gave us when we were created and we just need to cultivate it. This is pure New Age bunk, the LIE from satan in the garden of Eden, aka Higher Self, True Self, the god within, etc.

BlessedinHim
May 22nd, 2008, 11:37 PM
I had read many of his early books. The one I like the most was No Wonder they Call Him the Saviour. I thought it was a really good book at the time. I have learned a lot since I read it. It has been like ten years ago? wow, how time flies. . . . at the time, I really liked his writing, it was easy to read and understand. He might be milk for babes in Christ at that time. What I have heard of him now, I am shocked and dismayed. He was a really good author. I havent read any of his newer writings.

Sing4Him
May 23rd, 2008, 12:23 AM
Max Lucado is part of "Contemplative Spirituality" and ecumenicism:

see this:

Lucado holds an unscriptural view of Christian unity which is helping to break down the walls of separation between truth and error and which is preparing the way for the building of a one-world apostate "church." Lucado helped organize an ecumenical alliance of pastors in his home town, which has grown to more than 100. The pastors are learning to "put away differences" in order to deepen personal relationships. It includes women pastors, Charismatics, and others. Cindy Daniel, for example, is co-pastor with her husband of Expect a Miracle Church. Newman Dollar, pastor of City View Christian Fellowship, who, with Lucado, was one of the founders of this ecumenical fellowship, told the San Antonio Express-News (Feb. 19, 2000) that he wants to see more pastors from Catholic churches participating.


Lucado was a signer of the deceptive "The Gift of Salvation" declaration between evangelicals and Catholics in November 1997. This declaration was also known as "Evangelicals and Catholics Together II." We exposed the danger and error of this statement in the article "Evangelicals and Catholics Confusing the Gift of Salvation," which was published December 7, 1997. We noted that "The Gift of Salvation" is a bland and, in the ecumenical context, insufficient affirmation of the doctrine of biblical justification. In typical New Evangelical fashion, the evangelical authors and signers omitted many things that are necessary to properly delineate the true Bible Gospel from the false Roman Catholic one. For the most part, what they stated about justification is not inherently unscriptural; THE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM LIES IN WHAT THEY FAILED TO STATE. This, of course, is the root error of New Evangelicalism.

Lucado's unscriptural view of unity was also evident when he spoke at the 1996 Promise Keepers Clergy Conference for Men in Atlanta, Georgia. According to Promise Keeper leader Dale Schlafer, priests, bishops and pastors were present from every denomination in America.

Lucado's message at the Clergy Conference dealt with "Denominational Harmony: From Bondage to Freedom." Lucado said, "I submit myself to the Word and there are core beliefs. However, for too long we have allowed our differences to divide us instead of our agreements to unite us." He urged the men to subscribe to the premise, "In essentials unity--in non-essentials charity."

We wonder if Lucado considers the gospel itself "essential"? If so, how can he yoke together with Roman Catholics who add sacraments to Christ's salvation? The phrase "in essentials unity--in non-essentials charity" is a smokescreen for disobedience to biblical separation. While not every teaching of scripture is of equal importance, the Bible does not divide doctrine into essential and non-essential. Timothy's job in Ephesus was to make certain that NO OTHER DOCTRINE be allowed (1 Timothy 1:3). There is no hint here that some portions of apostolic truth are "non-essential." Paul labored to preach THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD (Acts 20:27). The man who strives to be faithful to every detail of New Testament truth will find it impossible to be comfortable in an ecumenical Promise Keepers-type environment. As one wise man observed, "You will have a limited fellowship, or you will have a limited message."








http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/maxlucado.htm

Sing4Him
May 23rd, 2008, 12:29 AM
In Max Lucado's book, Cure for the Common Life, Lucado talks about the "divine spark" that is in each person. And we could give numerous other examples of contemplative emerging authors and leaders who talk like this, even though they name the name of Christ. The New Age teaches a higher self and a "spark of divinity" within the soul of every person, and so do Christian leaders. http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newsletter013007.htm

He has written on the cover of Brennan Manning's book, Raggamuffin Gospel: (see this article: http://www.apprising.org/archives/2006/06/ragamuffin_spir.html)


"Brennan does a masterful job of blowing the dust off of shop-worn theology and allowing God's grace to do what only God's grace can do - amaze."



50 Most Influential Churches" - Many Promoting Contemplative

This month The Church Report (both an online and hard copy magazine) posted a "50 Most Influential Churches" list. The list was compiled from a 2006 survey of over 2000 non-Catholic leaders. The number one spot fell to Willow Creek (Bill Hybels) with Saddleback (Rick Warren) following at number two. This means that the two most influential churches (according to this survey) are promoters of contemplative spirituality.

Many others of the 50 named also fall within this category. Some of those include:
#3 North Point Community Church (Pastor Andy Stanley, son of Charles Stanley)
#4 Fellowship Church (Pastor Ed Young, Jr.)
#7 Life Church (Pastor Craig Groeschel)
#12 Mosaic Church (Pastor Erwin McManus)
#17 Mars Hill Bible Church (Pastor Rob Bell)
#18 Capo Beach Calvary (Pastor Chuck Smith, Jr.)
#22 Mars Hill Church (Pastor Mark Driscoll)
#40 Calvary Church Fort Lauderdale (Pastor Bob Coy)
#45 Menlo Park Park Presbyterian (Pastor John Ortberg)
#46 Oak Hills Church (Pastor Max Lucado)
#48 Wooddale Church (Pastor Leith Anderson)
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newsletter071706.htm

:tsk

suzirees1969
May 23rd, 2008, 07:38 AM
Wow! Thank you all for that information! It looks like I will be cleaning house and tossing out some books!

God bless you!

Suzi

sunshine2777
May 23rd, 2008, 07:55 AM
Would someone PPPLLLLEEEEZZZEEEE give me a direct teaching from Pastor Bob Coy that put him in this category? I've been waiting for months and I want something directly from his teaching. Thank you ahead of time.

JustinSolo
May 23rd, 2008, 08:49 AM
Would someone PPPLLLLEEEEZZZEEEE give me a direct teaching from Pastor Bob Coy that put him in this category? I've been waiting for months and I want something directly from his teaching. Thank you ahead of time.

Nobody said anything bad about him in this thread. He was just listed as being in the top influential churches. Being influential is not always bad :hat

susanb
May 23rd, 2008, 10:35 AM
Here's some info on Coy

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/index.php?p=834&c=1