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4JesusLove
May 25th, 2008, 07:55 AM
http://www.yahoo.com/s/887857

Energy fears looming, new survivalists prepare
By SAMANTHA GROSS, Associated Press Writer Posted Sat May 24, 2008 11:12am PDT

Peter Laskowski stacks firewood at his remote home in Waitsfield, Vt., Friday, April 11, 2008. Convinced that the planet's oil supply is dwindling and the world's economies are heading for a crash, people around the country are moving onto homesteads, learning to live off their land, conserving fuel and, in some cases, stocking up on guns they expect to use to defend themselves and their supplies from desperate crowds of people who didn't prepare. (AP Photo/Toby Talbot)

BUSKIRK, N.Y. - A few years ago, Kathleen Breault was just another suburban grandma, driving countless hours every week, stopping for lunch at McDonald's, buying clothes at the mall, watching TV in the evenings.

That was before Breault heard an author talk about the bleak future of the world's oil supply. Now, she's preparing for the world as we know it to disappear.

Breault cut her driving time in half. She switched to a diet of locally grown foods near her upstate New York home and lost 70 pounds. She sliced up her credit cards, banished her television and swore off plane travel. She began relying on a wood-burning stove.

"I was panic-stricken," the 50-year-old recalled, her voice shaking. "Devastated. Depressed. Afraid. Vulnerable. Weak. Alone. Just terrible."

Convinced the planet's oil supply is dwindling and the world's economies are heading for a crash, some people around the country are moving onto homesteads, learning to live off their land, conserving fuel and, in some cases, stocking up on guns they expect to use to defend themselves and their supplies from desperate crowds of people who didn't prepare.

The exact number of people taking such steps is impossible to determine, but anecdotal evidence suggests that the movement has been gaining momentum in the last few years.

These energy survivalists are not leading some sort of green revolution meant to save the planet. Many of them believe it is too late for that, seeing signs in soaring fuel and food prices and a faltering U.S. economy, and are largely focused on saving themselves.

Some are doing it quietly, giving few details of their preparations — afraid that revealing such information as the location of their supplies will endanger themselves and their loved ones. They envision a future in which the nation's cities will be filled with hungry, desperate refugees forced to go looking for food, shelter and water.

"There's going to be things that happen when people can't get things that they need for themselves and their families," said Lynn-Marie, who believes cities could see a rise in violence as early as 2012.

Lynn-Marie asked to be identified by her first name to protect her homestead in rural western Idaho. Many of these survivalists declined to speak to The Associated Press for similar reasons.

These survivalists believe in "peak oil," the idea that world oil production is set to hit a high point and then decline. Scientists who support idea say the amount of oil produced in the world each year has already or will soon begin a downward slide, even amid increased demand. But many scientists say such a scenario will be avoided as other sources of energy come in to fill the void.

On the PeakOil.com Web site, where upward of 800 people gathered on recent evenings, believers engage in a debate about what kind of world awaits.

Some members argue there will be no financial crash, but a slow slide into harder times. Some believe the federal government will respond to the loss of energy security with a clampdown on personal freedoms. Others simply don't trust that the government can maintain basic services in the face of an energy crisis.

The powers that be, they've determined, will be largely powerless to stop what is to come.

Determined to guard themselves from potentially harsh times ahead, Lynn-Marie and her husband have already planted an orchard of about 40 trees and built a greenhouse on their 7 1/2 acres. They have built their own irrigation system. They've begun to raise chickens and pigs, and they've learned to slaughter them.

The couple have gotten rid of their TV and instead have been reading dusty old books published in their grandparents' era, books that explain the simpler lifestyle they are trying to revive. Lynn-Marie has been teaching herself how to make soap. Her husband, concerned about one day being unable to get medications, has been training to become an herbalist.

By 2012, they expect to power their property with solar panels, and produce their own meat, milk and vegetables. When things start to fall apart, they expect their children and grandchildren will come back home and help them work the land. She envisions a day when the family may have to decide whether to turn needy people away from their door.

"People will be unprepared," she said. "And we can imagine marauding hordes."

So can Peter Laskowski. Living in a woodsy area outside of Montpelier, Vt., the 57-year-old retiree has become the local constable and a deputy sheriff for his county, as well as an emergency medical technician.

"I decided there was nothing like getting the training myself to deal with insurrections, if that's a possibility," said the former executive recruiter.

Laskowski is taking steps similar to environmentalists: conserving fuel, consuming less, studying global warming, and relying on local produce and craftsmen. Laskowski is powering his home with solar panels and is raising fish, geese, ducks and sheep. He has planted apple and pear trees and is growing lettuce, spinach and corn.

Whenever possible, he uses his bicycle to get into town.

"I remember the oil crisis in '73; I remember waiting in line for gas," Laskowski said. "If there is a disruption in the oil supply it will be very quickly elevated into a disaster."

Breault said she hopes to someday band together with her neighbors to form a self-sufficient community. Women will always be having babies, she notes, and she imagines her skills as a midwife will always be in demand.

For now, she is readying for the more immediate work ahead: There's a root cellar to dig, fruit trees and vegetable plots to plant. She has put a bicycle on layaway, and soon she'll be able to bike to visit her grandkids even if there is no oil at the pump.

Whatever the shape of things yet to come, she said, she's done what she can to prepare.

:pray

Jubilee on Earth
May 25th, 2008, 08:17 AM
I wish I could be one of those people. That just seems so purposeful! But I live in a big city... in a condo... and drive 40 miles one-way to work to get my paycheck.

Unless I win the lotto or something, it isn't happening. We can't just pick up and move.

I'll just have to pray that we all get raptured before it gets that bad.

:rapture

frodo82801
May 25th, 2008, 09:19 AM
http://green.yahoo.com/news/ap/20080524/ap_on_re_us/environmental_survivalists.html

Self reliance is an innate trait in a lot of people.
A few years ago, Kathleen Breault was just another suburban grandma, driving countless hours every week, stopping for lunch at McDonald's, buying clothes at the mall, watching TV in the evenings.

That was before Breault heard an author talk about the bleak future of the world's oil supply. Now, she's preparing for the world as we know it to disappear.

Breault cut her driving time in half. She switched to a diet of locally grown foods near her upstate New York home and lost 70 pounds. She sliced up her credit cards, banished her television and swore off plane travel. She began relying on a wood-burning stove.

"I was panic-stricken," the 50-year-old recalled, her voice shaking. "Devastated. Depressed. Afraid. Vulnerable. Weak. Alone. Just terrible."

Convinced the planet's oil supply is dwindling and the world's economies are heading for a crash, some people around the country are moving onto homesteads, learning to live off their land, conserving fuel and, in some cases, stocking up on guns they expect to use to defend themselves and their supplies from desperate crowds of people who didn't prepare.

The exact number of people taking such steps is impossible to determine, but anecdotal evidence suggests that the movement has been gaining momentum in the last few years.

Anddra
May 25th, 2008, 09:59 AM
These things could happen before the tribulation, so it makes sense to know how to look after yourself. (I could stand to lose a pound or two in weight as well.) In many ways, leading a simpler lifestyle would be much healthier, less stressful and more rewarding.

heybales219
May 25th, 2008, 10:18 AM
It's amazing that with all the advances in technology, we actually seem to be moving back in time to the more simpler lifestyle, like that talked about in the article.

Christopher Clemons
May 25th, 2008, 10:45 AM
I wish I could be one of those people. That just seems so purposeful! But I live in a big city... in a condo... and drive 40 miles one-way to work to get my paycheck.

Unless I win the lotto or something, it isn't happening. We can't just pick up and move.

I'll just have to pray that we all get raptured before it gets that bad.

:rapture

Hang in there! :)

I live in the city myself and have found that God has blessed my wife and I when it comes to wisely making purchases the last few weeks. Just yesterday I made a run through Aldi, Big Lots, Costco and Dollar Tree and was able to get all we needed for the week. Also, think of it as an opportunity to serve others as it will be areas like ours that will get hit the hardest at first.

:candle

windtalker
May 25th, 2008, 11:24 AM
I agree with the OP in that being prepaired is good thing , infact we live in the "counrty" even though in my mind it doesn't qualify for a "rural" title.....to many people too close to call it that.

We have some food stocked, we have a nice garden started and we also have enough firearms to protect ourselves.....but in my opinion if times get so bad that there are those marauding hordes,many of the folks that are prepaired will have to give their lives for what they have. The authorities will be stretched to thin to worry about someone stealing a cow a horse or even a bycicle.

At some point there will not be enough guns or built in security devices....the best idea would be to network together as a small tightly grouped community, of like minded people maybe from your church, all there for one another each having the others back.:wave

Southern Lady
May 25th, 2008, 02:12 PM
Hang in there! :)

I live in the city myself and have found that God has blessed my wife and I when it comes to wisely making purchases the last few weeks. Just yesterday I made a run through Aldi, Big Lots, Costco and Dollar Tree and was able to get all we needed for the week. Also, think of it as an opportunity to serve others as it will be areas like ours that will get hit the hardest at first.

:candle

We were in Dollar Tree the other day (my husband the teacher favorite store) and the clerk was telling us that it was getting harder for Dollar Tree to get items and sell them for a dollar and still make a profit. The lines in Dollar Tree were long too. But even I can see some items are no longer at the store. She was concerned that even Dollar Tree may have to revamp and no longer be just $1.00

Anddra
May 25th, 2008, 02:14 PM
We were in Dollar Tree the other day (my husband the teacher favorite store) and the clerk was telling us that it was getting harder for Dollar Tree to get items and sell them for a dollar and still make a profit. The lines in Dollar Tree were long too. But even I can see some items are no longer at the store. She was concerned that even Dollar Tree may have to revamp and no longer be just $1.00

There used to be shops in the UK known as the 99p Store. These days, they are known as the £1.99 Store.

Barachem
May 25th, 2008, 04:11 PM
I live in a dutch city and i walk mostly and sometimes use public transport for longer distances and when i'm in a hurry or if the weather is too bad.
I try to budget things, even though i do spend money on personal things every now and then.
I hope to be in Japan or Germany before the bad times are even badder.