Mom concern

[BlessedAssurance]

Okay, I'm praying hard for the Rapture. And I'm glad that my kids are young...but I have a couple concerns, and would like your opinions.

What do you think is the age of accountability?

Both of mine have loved Jesus, and sung songs they made up to him, since they could talk. In Kindergarten DD went into the bathroom to pray for a little boy who was new and acting out. :pray Both have about stopped my heart while I was driving by saying, "I can't wait to get to Heaven and give Jesus a big hug!"

DD11 and I talked about Rapture tonight. She says she loves Jesus, and definitely believed he died for her, and was resurrected after three days, and died for her sins, but why do bad things happen? Why is our family so blessed and other families not? Why is my back so bad, when we all pray so hard? It was a wonderful conversation, but.... Am I selfish to want the Lord to come for us before her Faith is really tested?

Would she be saved for always, even as she doubts, as long as she never renounced God and Jesus?

My mother says that my sister and I came home from Bible School at 2 and 3, and said that Jesus loved us, and we had the Holy Spirit in our hearts. We never lost that, although our true walk with Christ came later (as we matured). My brother never did come home with that joy.

I don't know. I worry some...:idunno This is not something I stay up late nights worrying about, but thought we could discuss it.

[FaithContender]

Okay, I'm praying hard for the Rapture. And I'm glad that my kids are young...but I have a couple concerns, and would like your opinions.

What do you think is the age of accountability?

Both of mine have loved Jesus, and sung songs they made up to him, since they could talk. In Kindergarten DD went into the bathroom to pray for a little boy who was new and acting out. :pray Both have about stopped my heart while I was driving by saying, "I can't wait to get to Heaven and give Jesus a big hug!"

DD11 and I talked about Rapture tonight. She says she loves Jesus, and definitely believed he died for her, and was resurrected after three days, and died for her sins, but why do bad things happen? Why is our family so blessed and other families not? Why is my back so bad, when we all pray so hard? It was a wonderful conversation, but.... Am I selfish to want the Lord to come for us before her Faith is really tested?

Would she be saved for always, even as she doubts, as long as she never renounced God and Jesus?

My mother says that my sister and I came home from Bible School at 2 and 3, and said that Jesus loved us, and we had the Holy Spirit in our hearts. We never lost that, although our true walk with Christ came later (as we matured). My brother never did come home with that joy.

I don't know. I worry some...:idunno This is not something I stay up late nights worrying about, but thought we could discuss it.

I think the age of accountability is different for every child. :idunno

[Amanda's mom]

Okay, I'm praying hard for the Rapture. And I'm glad that my kids are young...but I have a couple concerns, and would like your opinions.

What do you think is the age of accountability?
I think the AOA is different for each person depending on their ability to understand and make decisions. There are some adults who have very child-like minds and are incapable of making decisions...it is my hope that God will hold them innocent. I know some children who are able to decide at a very early age about God and Jesus. Only God knows what is truly in our hearts.

Both of mine have loved Jesus, and sung songs they made up to him, since they could talk. In Kindergarten DD went into the bathroom to pray for a little boy who was new and acting out. :pray Both have about stopped my heart while I was driving by saying, "I can't wait to get to Heaven and give Jesus a big hug!"
How very blessed you and your children are.

DD11 and I talked about Rapture tonight. She says she loves Jesus, and definitely believed he died for her, and was resurrected after three days, and died for her sins, but why do bad things happen? Why is our family so blessed and other families not? Why is my back so bad, when we all pray so hard? It was a wonderful conversation, but.... Am I selfish to want the Lord to come for us before her Faith is really tested?
In my opinion, absolutely NOT!!! As moms, we always want life to be easier for our children and we want to be assurred of their salvation. From the sound of things, your daughter is on the right track. All you can do is to continue as you have with her and pray for God to help her.

Would she be saved for always, even as she doubts, as long as she never renounced God and Jesus?

The only unforgivable sin is to commit blashpemy against the Holy Spirit. I have read the opinions of others on this and it seems to make sense that this blasphemy is to deny the invitation of the HS to accept Jesus as one's savior and the salvation that He brings. We all question our faith from time to time, even those who seem so strong in their faith. I think this questioning is a way of strengthening our beliefs because each time we do, we examine a new facet of our faith. Much like a blacksmith heating up and cooling down the iron to shape it. I think that the HS within us helps us to question areas that need strengthening so I wouldn't be too worried about your children questioning or doubting. Show them how to use the Bible and prayer as tools to help with their questioning.

My mother says that my sister and I came home from Bible School at 2 and 3, and said that Jesus loved us, and we had the Holy Spirit in our hearts. We never lost that, although our true walk with Christ came later (as we matured). My brother never did come home with that joy.
You were both blessed. Keep praying for your brother, he may still have a fertile seed of faith inside to grow.

I don't know. I worry some...:idunno This is not something I stay up late nights worrying about, but thought we could discuss it.
It is natural for us moms to worry. All we can do is show our faith to our children by living it (that's how we guide them) and pray for the Master of all creation to help them grow in strength in their faith.

May God bless you and help you as you teach your precious children.

[lisaann]

Unfortunately there is no scripture that supports the age of accountability. However, God is above all else a fair and just God. :nod

1 Corinthians 7:14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

As you can see God has made provision for the children of believers. :thumb Many people think that all children will be taken in the rapture. Personally, I don't based on this scripture and the fact that the children going in the rapture or escaping punishment are never mentioned in the Bible. Also the children of the unrighteous were not saved in Sodom and Gomorah as well as Noah's flood. Scripture seems to indicate that only the righteous and their children will be spared judgment.

At some point everyone needs to decide for themselves. Whatever that point is in each individual I trust that God is fair and just.

As for the question of "why do bad things happen to Christians" the answer goes back to the origional sin of Adam and Eve. God did not make this world to have troubles but because of sin they are here.
This article might help you with this question:
http://answersingenesis.org/docs2006/death-and-suffering.asp

[BlessedAssurance]

I think the AOA is different for each person depending on their ability to understand and make decisions. There are some adults who have very child-like minds and are incapable of making decisions...it is my hope that God will hold them innocent. I know some children who are able to decide at a very early age about God and Jesus. Only God knows what is truly in our hearts.


How very blessed you and your children are.


In my opinion, absolutely NOT!!! As moms, we always want life to be easier for our children and we want to be assurred of their salvation. From the sound of things, your daughter is on the right track. All you can do is to continue as you have with her and pray for God to help her.



The only unforgivable sin is to commit blashpemy against the Holy Spirit. I have read the opinions of others on this and it seems to make sense that this blasphemy is to deny the invitation of the HS to accept Jesus as one's savior and the salvation that He brings. We all question our faith from time to time, even those who seem so strong in their faith. I think this questioning is a way of strengthening our beliefs because each time we do, we examine a new facet of our faith. Much like a blacksmith heating up and cooling down the iron to shape it. I think that the HS within us helps us to question areas that need strengthening so I wouldn't be too worried about your children questioning or doubting. Show them how to use the Bible and prayer as tools to help with their questioning.


You were both blessed. Keep praying for your brother, he may still have a fertile seed of faith inside to grow.


It is natural for us moms to worry. All we can do is show our faith to our children by living it (that's how we guide them) and pray for the Master of all creation to help them grow in strength in their faith.

May God bless you and help you as you teach your precious children.


thank you. My soul answers these questions your way, but my mind doubts. What a blessing for you to lay it all out for me in black and white!

[BlessedAssurance]

Unfortunately there is no scripture that supports the age of accountability. However, God is above all else a fair and just God. :nod

1 Corinthians 7:14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

As you can see God has made provision for the children of believers. :thumb Many people think that all children will be taken in the rapture. Personally, I don't based on this scripture and the fact that the children going in the rapture or escaping punishment are never mentioned in the Bible. Also the children of the unrighteous were not saved in Sodom and Gomorah as well as Noah's flood. Scripture seems to indicate that only the righteous and their children will be spared judgment.

At some point everyone needs to decide for themselves. Whatever that point is in each individual I trust that God is fair and just.

As for the question of "why do bad things happen to Christians" the answer goes back to the origional sin of Adam and Eve. God did not make this world to have troubles but because of sin they are here.
This article might help you with this question:
http://answersingenesis.org/docs2006/death-and-suffering.asp

Thank you for your reply. I have prayed about that verse several times. It is difficult for me to intellectually agree with God if that is the way, but God is always right. This morning I was reminded of the Palestinian children (as young as 5) holding guns and chanting against Israel. Apparently, their hearts are already hardened.

I guess, having taught high school for 15 years, I see that teenagers are still children, still confused, and stubborn and resistant. I praise God everyday that he sent me to this valley that still has a strong fundamental core.

Thanks for your post.

[saint-in-training]

Maybe when they have the ability to make a choice for themselves as to what they will do, and if they've been introduced to Christianity and know for the most part about the creation, death, and resurrection? I beg for the rapture because I so dislike where this world is going so that I fear where it will take my children as well as their minds. Right now I've actually been going through a bit of a difficulty. Tell me what you all think. I've already heard two others disagree with my own thinking on the issue and I thought how I felt about it would have been pretty widespread within a Christian group.

Yesterday, I received a note and a packet in the mail. The note explained that about this time they introduce a unit on "human maturation" as they call it. Where they discuss parts of the body how they will soon change (mind you this child of mine is at the end of fourth grade and is 10 years old.) There are (in the packet) a couple of loose paragraph titels like, "Your Changin' Bod" and "Here It Is Girls...Menstruation." They describe body part terms and functions, menstruation and products, ugh...and bodily hair...hygiene.... And in their little Q&A section there was one particular question that bothered me...If I use a tampon will I still be a virgin?...Then they go one to discuss with their answer what a virgin is and talk about sexual intercourse. Not descriptly, but well here's what their answer was. I want to give exactly their answer, and yes this is a public school. I cannot afford to send my children to a christian school or I certainly would!
They say..."If you've never had sexual intercourse, and you use a tampon, then yes, you are still a virgin. A virgin is someone who hasn't had sexual intercourse. Using a tampon may (although not commonly) rupture your hymen, which is also ruptured the first time a woman has sexual intercourse. But contrary to myth, a hymen is not an indicator of virginity. Plenty of virgins have barely noticeable hymens; non-virgins may even have intact, though stretched hymens."

Okay, now they've used the words "sexual intercourse" with my daughter and she's going to want to know exactly what it is they're talking about, right? I know not talking to my daughter about the birds and the bees descriptly will not keep her from doing anything, but I just don't know if I want the public school to teach my daughter about this stuff. And especially not right now, fourth grade, 10 yrs old. I just have this feeling that if you introduce them to sexuality too early, they may become interested in it prematurely, do I sound crazy?

Not to mention, I've pretty much covered most of this stuff with her already myself, but I just think it's stuff they should learn at home with mom or dad. Not the gym teacher!

[His Bride]

We never know what God has planned but we do know that He loves our children, even more than we do. That said, you seem rather anxious about them. If you have done your best, humanly speaking, then why don't you leave the rest to Him. Trust Him. And give them to Him. They are only yours for a short time, on loan.

[Betty]

Our Pastor talked about this last week at Bible Study. He says it is different with every child. He said at the age of 8, he felt convicted and went to the altar and accepted Jesus as His Savior. I did at 7. He believes that once a child feels conviction in their heart and makes a decision yes or no, that they have become accountable. This does not mean that God won't deal with that person again. But we should teach our children from a very young age about Jesus.
betty

[chel0524]

It is different for everyone. It depends upon the level of understanding that the child has reached. Does your child know that they have to accept Jesus as their saviour? Discuss this with her.

My oldest DD who will be 10 next weekend, was recently saved. She was baptized yesterday. Praising God! She understands that it was her choice to accept Jesus and she understood that He died for her and was resurrected. She only recently made that connection. I can tell you, though, that we had been talking to her about it for a while. All of a sudden one Sunday as we were leaving church, she started talking about getting saved. It was all she talked about for 3 days. She wanted every piece of information she could get. That Wednesday night at church, she was saved. The Holy spirit was after for hard for those 3 days. She was consumed by a need to be saved.

The only advice I can give you is to keep talking about it. She'll know when God is knocking on her heart.